Not only do I think non-incarcerated felons should have the right to vote, I think currently incarcerated should as well. Hell, set up a voting location in the prison.
this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2026
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That's how it works in most civilised countries.
That's how it works in ~~most~~ civilised countries.
I added the qualifier mainly because of New Zealand. AFAIK the country has otherwise its shit together.
New Zealand also lets the team down by allowing medical advertising. IRC it's the only country other than the US with prescription medical advertising.
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They’d like you to think that. Truth is there’s even less „checks and balances“ there than the already paper thin ones in the US. The courts have no teeth with the government and it’s a effectively unicameral system. Theoretically the King has executive power but he would never step in. Prisoners not being able to vote has been ruled by the courts to be against the Bill of Rights and they were just ignored.
Even better, let's stop doing prisons
Certainly cutting back 9 out of 10 prisons is a good idea. I don't object to the idea that there is a certain amount of people who need to be removed for their own and the public's safety.
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I'd settle for getting rid of for profit ones
Start with getting rid of private prisons, and then go from there
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That is how it works in a democracy
It is legal in most states for non felons to vote from prison/jail, of course some states make it difficult.
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Especially since those states are counting those prisoners among the residents in the census.
The entire fucking point is to get the benefits for those additional people, while not having to worry about them voting (likely against the people who put them there)
Important distinction, the census counts the prisoners as residents of the county in which the prison sits. The prisoners are almost always already residents of the state. It’s called prison gerrymandering, and it unfairly advantages the county and districts in which the prisons lie, almost always rural and almost always to Republican advantage.
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Any government that can financially profit from its prisoners also has an incentive to imprison more of its population.
Well, the government isn't profiting from it. Its the people running the government who are invested in private prison companies are personally profiting from it. Along with their golf buddies running said companies.
Privately run prisons as a for profit business is a crime against humanity.
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An imprisoned felon has no voice, but a free felon can be president.
A lot of world leaders are criminals.
Indubitably.
Funny enough according to many states can't vote. But somehow can be voted for. But I've been informed by my eldest sibling that I have some sort of thing they call TDS and I don't give enough of a fuck to care about what stupidity that means.
More fun facts, slavery is still legal in the USA (for prisoners) and the USA imprisons a higher proportion of its population than any other country. The ruling class just makes everything illegal and enjoys unlimited slave labor!
They intend to greatly increase the use of prisoner slave labor, and will be using it to punish political prisoners they have labeled ANTIFA terrorists, just for posting messages like this one.
They want to identify everyone on the Internet, not so they can keep children from learning that boys and girls have different genitalia, but so they can find the ANTIFA Terrorists, imprison them, take away their right to vote, and then lease them out to Sociopathic Oligarchs for whatever dangerous, unregulated work they need done - mining, environmental clean-up, construction, roadwork, crop harvesting, etc.
All those jobs that immigrants used to do? ANTIFA Terrorists can do them.
Us people: criminals shouldn't be allowed to vote!
Then proceed to vote for and elect a criminal.
Then they do it again. Just because.
Currently it depends on the state/district.
https://legalclarity.org/in-what-states-can-felons-vote-state-by-state-laws/
Only the District of Columbia, Maine, and Vermont allow people with felony convictions to vote at all times, including while serving time in prison
Good for Trump that DC is on the list, otherwise he should have trouble voting.
Yet another reason to move to Vermont some day
Lee Carter is a former Democratic Socialist member of the Virginia House of Delegates (2018–2022) who actively championed prison abolition and criminal justice reform.
I agree with the sentiment, but were prisoners able to vote, prisons would get gerrymandered to hell and back. That said, they should still be able to.
I think you're touching the heart of the problem: the US election system.
In Sweden, prisoners keep their home address and vote in their home district.
To be fair, Sweden's prison system is more progressive than the non-imprisoned experience in some countries.
Yeah that just means that gerrymandering is the problem.
One of the many ways in which those in power in the US systematically enslave and disenfranchise people of color to this day.
If anyone needs representation, it's prisoners.
red states use prisoners as part of the census, so they can maintain the gop house seats in thier states.
Wait until you hear about countries that prevent even their non-criminals from actually voting. They usually hold an election but it's just theatrical, your text in vote for the next pop idol is more statistically valuable.
Coming soon to a United States near you
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Switch to Scientific Socialism. Problem solved.
Also quit letting any 2bit idiot have a say on what the country's policies are unless they're qualified to be in that conversation.
Also quit letting any 2bit idiot have a say on what the country’s policies are unless they’re qualified to be in that conversation.
That is such a tempting setup...
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I’ll upvote Lee Carter tweet screenshots all day long.
You got that backward, chief.
It's not a coincidence.
It's literally the point.
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