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Probably gonna get hate for this but like... Yeah if I had the option to pay for more things and not be tracked and dataharvested, I would. The infrastructure and support isn't free. What's really shit is when they do both... The prices should be lower, like way way way lower, but middlemen all want their cuts for transactions so you'll almost never see subs for under a dollar.
Just because you pay a subscription to avoid ads does not mean your data is not still being harvested and sold. The big exception is now they have a payment method tied to a specific person not just an ad profile.
That has more to do with what apps you chose to use and give them your data.
But people still don't get the basic principle "if you don't pay, you are not the customer, your are the merchandise being sold".
You are right but just as the original commenter said, even if you pay there is no way to be sure the app you just paid for isn't harvesting and selling your sweet sweet usage data. Like Tiktok I'd imagine would 100% do.
I am at a point where I'd really like to support and pay for apps, even closed source ones, just so they don't show me ads or harvest my data. Open source is much better at that, of course.
No way to be sure? It is absolutely sure that they are harvesting every bit of data they can from you.
My wife was shocked when she googled herself and found information that could only have been obtained by reading all of her emails. I explained that Gmail and other mail services are not charities, and if you're not paying for them with money, you are paying with something else.
Yep. Like proton started out immediately as a secure alternative. I'd trust them. I imagine tuta and others as well.
As for the rest (Google, meta, tiktok) I'd say there is zero chance your data would ever hope to never be harvested.
I mean I get where you're coming from, but imo we shouldn't have to pay to not be tracked and data harvested. You can run ads and have them not be creepy stalky, it's only greed to maxmize profits that pushes companies to go for the stalker option.
I know this is in the UK, but on this topic, in the EU, is it even legal to require to pay to avoid tracking? Tracking should require consent, but it should be non-forced, meaning, connecting the consent to some other condition, like paying, is likely not legal.
I have YouTube premium but (besides now) I'm borderline afraid to reveal this to anyone online due to crowd mentality being fully against paying for YouTube. It's around 3.5€ per month for me as part of family plan me and bunch of friends created. Supposedly creators earn far more from premium watches than people watching ads, so that's nice to know.
I like(d) YouTube premium. It pays significantly more to creators while removing ads and adds other paywalled features like music.
But I stopped mine because I became more budget conscious, and because I basically stopped using the site entirely because the UX is so bad! I primarily use freetube desktop and pipepipe android, so creators weren't going to get paid for my views anyways, so I just cancelled... But ideally, if the site UX wasn't terrible and I used it as intended, I'd happily sub.
I don't use tiktok for reasons that would be preaching to the choir here, but pardon me for asking... Isn't everything on TikTok an ad? Like they're either telling people to buy a book, put sugary syrup in water, buy organising plastic containers, selling slime, selling ice cube trays that ironically make them no longer cubes, selling makeup, clothing hauls, generating affiliate revenue, asking people to enlist... I could go on. It's just ads all the way down? What would someone see if they removed all the #ad posts?
My tiktok fyp is mostly cooking videos, animals, skits and music stuff. If they're trying to advertise something they're doing a terrible job.
Or an extremely good one.
But one is your favorite creator and one isnt.
But yes, both are essentially ads.
You now have a choice between being addicted for free or being addicted for 3.99 per month! Nice.
Smug and proud that TikTok has never earned a dime from me
Neither from me. At least not voluntarily or knowingly.
How about no tiktok at all. It's all slop.
Everything is slop these days, I'm actively out here touching grass and have never felt better
Yeah that happens a lot with the model most apps and platforms use. The venture capital today, figure out how to actually become profitable tomorrow. That transition is usually messy.
Yep. Not even once. Bring the web back to its roots. Fuck all these grifters.
I can't decide if I hate TikTok or VC more
TikTok only ruins itself. VC ruins infinitely more stuff.
But, tictocs are already ads. So, what's now, ads with extra ads?
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Meanwhile tiktok creators earn a lot less than influencers on other platforms...
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TBH, I think 50% of my wife's TT usage is finding cheap neat things on TT ads.
Wow, you now have the option to pay to have no ads? Something that's been pretty standard for like the last 10 years
The alternative is to just not have that option, which makes no difference if you just don't choose it
Jfc who the fuck uses this app.
Or just patch it with Morphe.
They (Google) will eventually ban morphle developers. All is heading that way with android
If they touch Adb it's over for Android altogether. So they can't actually do anything.
What good is adb if they system is blacklisting install by this developer?
Imo it is over for android, yes that's the point.
Adb installs bypass all that, and without adb nobody could make and test android apps so they would have no apps to sell.
That said I think looking into Linux phones is a good idea because Google are a scumbag company.
To be fair, one thing often overlooked is these things don't run in rainbows and unicorn dust. Especially a video platform. $$. To expect it completely free is kind of crazy.
Have to pay for the slop generating propaganda machine somehow.
Reminder that it took nearly 10 years for YouTube to start making profit. At some point the platform was burning around billion dollars per year.
I'd be willing to devote taxes to social media without ads and featuring a non-malevolent algorithm. If it allowed people to communicate with each other like Twitter or Facebook, it would be a service to the benefit of the public.
Once upon a time, at least here in the states, we believed in a government that served the public good.