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A Song Of Ice And Fire

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[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Daemon treating the dragon riders like shit can't be very good for their morale. On the other hand him being positively remembered by the Gold Cloaks paid off here...

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ulf is definitely being setup to cause trouble. Although his wants are pretty direct, man wants a castle and will probably "follow orders" in order to get one.

Hugh seems a bit more honest a man, so Daemon could definitely take things too far and cause Hugh to fight back.

Allyn probably wouldn't stand against Daemon directly, but he would back up Hugh or someone else.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I know I've said it before but this is the last time I can say it. I can't undersell how fucking stupid HBO was to cut season 2 down from 10 to 8 episodes without a plan in place. This is a glorious season 2 final episode.

As Daemon approached his "gift" I was running through my head who could possibly be trapped in the cells. Otto wasn't fresh in my mind, but I remembered Alicent talking with her brother about their father missing. I really hoped Otto had a bigger story left to tell, but his death is brutal. Aegon is a shitty kid, but Otto? Brutal. And then Alicent shows up? Brutal.

Also Aemond killing off Strong boys again. I think only Larys Strong survives? For now at least. I assume he'll be dead before the war is over. Maybe by Aemond.

Also shout out to Corlys who is apparently impossible to kill.

[–] schmalls@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems like a blunder for Aemond to turn his back to anyone and ends up getting stabbed in the back. But a bigger blunder was even trying to kill them in the first place.

I'm curious to find out what role sheep stealer has to play in all of this. Will she be able to tame them and join a side? Always be an outcast?

I also was thinking that Aegon was going to stab Larys with the arrowhead. Will Larys survive?

Daemon just cutting people's heads off mid last words. Hopefully his wife hears about his stupid plan to rape the queen mother.

What will Rhaenyra do with Alicent and company?

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I misunderstood the stabbing Aemond got at first and thought Alys was doing some magic on him. I thought the son reacted with a push/grab instinctively before trying to pull it back. But Alys will be a great "mother" figure for Aemond, similar to how she was to Daemon.

In terms of killing the Strongs, yeah that was stupid. Vhagar was having fun so I guess he wanted to have fun too.


In terms of Sheepstealer, Rhaena fucked up bad, and then doubled down by hiding in the Vale. Daemon said he'd hunt the dragon down, but that seems like a job for someone like Hugh or Ulf, at least finding where the dragon is.

I also wonder if Rhaenyra will ask/blame Alicent for the death of Jace. It seems like she'll be angry that Alicent didn't tell her that the Greens had an extra dragon. And Alicent seemingly lied about Aegon not being at King's Landing. But of course she told the truth about Aemond. But then Rhaenyra killed Alicent's dad. They have a lot to work out and I don't see that happening.


I suspect the Larys, like Littlefinger, will survive for a long while. He's already outlived the rest of his family. Also Larys is someone who plays all sides so he can always come out on top. But then why has he chosen Aegon? Of the Greens, Aegon is the least powerful/influential, despite being King.

If Larys and Aegon are successful in getting to Rook's Rest, and Sunfyre is alive, then what? Rhaenyra holds King's Landing. Aemond holds Harrenhall. Rhaenyra wants him dead. Aemond wants him dead. Hell Alicent is fine with him being dead.

What's the plan?


As for what Rhaenyra does next? I assume Alicent, Helena & her kid will be confined somewhere. The Hightower Army and Alicent's other son Daeron(?) will cause trouble for Rhaenyra's rule. Maybe they'll take Dragonstone and we'll have a full Green/Black reversal.

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

I would say it was at least somewhat suggested that there was magic involved since Aemond gave no regard to the stabbing until the witch appeared. Would be interesting to see comments by the show creators about it and how this part of the story was told in Fire & Blood.