OK, how do you disable it permanently? Besides Graphene or mobile Linux?
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2026
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Interesting how the majority of the comments refer to you being monitored on your own phone, ignoring that you will be monitored on everyone else's phone as well.
Which is also an important issue with google mail.
But this also violates the expectation that spoken conservations are private.
This will be quite illegal in all countries and states that require 2 party consent at minimum.
Incoming Google lawsuits in 3, 2, 1.
lol. they are exempt from copyright, they will be somehow exempt from this too.
The internet is becoming a hostile place, filled with predators and hazards, a privilege only of the wealthy, the powerful and their slaves, was not on my bingo card for things I'd live through. I feel I may have no choice but to genuinely disconnect from all of it in my private life.
Setting aside corporate surveillance, I have started to have a love/hate relationship with AI transcriptions in meetings. My auditory processing isn't great, so it is nice to have notes. And it's not replacing a job that someone was doing before. At the same time, it makes me feel more on edge. Everything I say becomes part of a permanent record. And I am part of a public institution, so that is subject to FOIA requests AFAIK.
The entire point of meetings and phone calls nowadays is that they can't later be subpoenaed. It's also why there are document retention policies in all major companies.
This is really about training AI, isn’t it. They’ve tapped nearly all the sources of human text output already, so now they want to create as much more of it as possible, as quickly as possible. They will tap into conversations and use it as a new data source, mark my words.
They are so lazy they want an LLM to tell them what is hot and the only way they can do it is by massive spying. The surveillance state brought to us by fucking advertising of all things. So bizarre.
“There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” — Mario Savio, 1964
GrapheneOS, asap Pixel owners.
Thank me later.
Before it's somehow no longer an option. I fear the Motorola deal will somehow get blocked.
I got GrapheneOS
I saw this title and immediately said "fuck off" then clicked, and ..glad to see OP sharing my immediate sentiment.
Creeps
The people who called me crazy because "there's no way your phone can be listening in on you all the time" are the same people who are going to be the most excited about this "feature"
How did these people expect "Hey Siri" / "Hey Google" to work?
Im a perfect world, as they claim, its a secondary system listening that isn't recording or transmitting anything, and is meant to be low power. If it hears the wake up word, it wakes up the other mic and starts recording.
Thats how they claim the smart speakers work anyway.
This would be different.
This was my understanding, but I just don't believe it anymore. There have been way, way too many time my wife and I were talking about an incredibly niche thing that didn't come up through the internet in any way, and lo and behold the algorithm presented those key words. Nobody will ever convince me it isn't being done to some extent.
It can't hear if it isn't already listening.
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Do not want
JFC, I don't need tech tracking every goddamn word and fart.
I will happily send them all the farts they want.
Dumb phones are about to start trending more and more every day.
Sure a dumb phone won't record for Google. Current ones don't and probably can't be made to.
But recording would be trivial to implement even on a dumb phone if it becomes acceptable to the majority. Hell it could become a legal requirement.
We cannot run away from these issues by using old phones, old vehicles, 'physical' media etc. Eventually they will be unavailable. Some, old vehicles, really should be for other reasons.
Or as others have pointed out, you might not be recorded by your phone but you will be by the others'.
We need to persuade more people to actively oppose such measures outright. Defend privacy, control of our devices etc explicitly.
I recently got rid of my smart watch when Samsung enshitified it and locked a bunch of features like weather updates behind an account, years after I bought the watch.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch (quartz crystal, not spring winding) that will last years before I need to replace the battery. Everything it does, it does better than a smart watch. Not having to do the wrist flick gesture 1-3 times to check the time has been amazing. And I'm not constantly broadcasting Bluetooth anymore.
The Commodore Callback has perfect timing haha.
Really the only thing I'd miss with it is Google Wallet and Android Auto.
My only barrier to it is the T9 text input. I'm constantly writing notes on my phone. I would have a hard time if I had to T9 every note in.
Outside of the MASSIVE security concerns that this would present, this would be an immensely helpful feature for me.
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This would be such a cool thing, too bad it will only be used to scrape our data in order to sell us more ads. There are far too many technologies and concepts that have been ruined already due to bloody greed.
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Even if no one else could access it because it stayed on my device, I'm sure it'll be used for categorizing "advertising cohort" stuff again.
It sucks having to be so skeptical. With my severe ADHD something like this would be enormously helpful for remembering conversations others I talk to remember just fine but I don't.
Here's the larger problem: other people will have this bullshit turned on and the microphones will receive the speech audio of everyone in their vicinity. It's fully breaking consent to be recorded for others.
I do not care what they might say about "listening only to the owner" or whatever they will claim. If it's recording with a microphone, then it will receive sound.
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