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Tested: Microsoft just debloated Windows 11 Search without Bing, and it's crazy fast (www.windowslatest.com)
submitted 14 hours ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Not surprising. Web search from the Start Menu was always a bad idea.

Hell, I've had to deal with users getting their systems compromised because of this idiocy. User typed 'ms teams' in the start menu, clicked on the first link and ended up at an attacker's page which mimicked the official Teams download page. User clicked "Download", received the trojaned .msi file and ran it.

Sure, there's some blame to go around in that case (and we finally got some default configuration changes out of it), but the fact that Microslop's greed led to a malvertising link showing up in a user's Start Menu is indicative of everything wrong with Windows 11.

[–] LightDelaBlue@jlai.lu 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

irs remind me teh atrocious active desktop on win98. wen you DARED turn it on hooo buy the pc was slow.

[–] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I liked it 😂

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It had a few good (or at least interesting) ideas for the time.

Also LOTS of bugs.

[–] mrsilkworm@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago

too little, too late

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 hours ago

is it ripgrep level of "crazy fast" tho?

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

One of the biggest Windows habits I've had to break is using file explorer to open documents and files. This was because memorizing file paths is way faster than using search. Search in Windows has never been good, because it's always been weighted toward what Microslop wants you to find. And the index goes to shit if a user does something unexpected like saving, moving, or deleting files.

Linux search just works. If I know the file name, there is no reason to open a file explorer at all. Just mash the power key and start typing.

[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear. Now my pc is turned off.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Did you try to modify the sleep settings and put your computer to sleep again Elijah?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I use 'everything' by void tools for most file searching. It doesn't index content but I find files way faster and more reliabily than Windows search.

[–] TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Everything for windows is hands down the most useful tool

I convinced our IT guy to index the company and host a server so now I can tell people where they stored shit even. In fact, it allows me to profile entire project lifespans and their respective evolution through our company.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 109 points 13 hours ago (17 children)

Only bad management is keeping everything from being crazy fast. No reason for today's programs to be slower than what we had a decade ago.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

There's also a whole lot of abstraction layers in software these days. All kinds of frameworks, no code platforms, scripts and engines ask introduce their own delays when running software, all added to make time to market a bit shorter or just because of some tech fetish.

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[–] morto@piefed.social 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I remember when finishing my dissertation and thinking about how my sister did her one several years before me, in a computer that was considered unusable by the time I did mine, and both the work process and the finished result were pretty much the same. I had a computer that was astronomically better than she had, yet, everything was slow, just like she felt when she did her.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The CPU in an average consumer PC can do tens of billions of instructions per second now. 10,000,000,000+ instructions per second. And then it can also offload some work to other devices. Here, graphics card, deal with updating this display at 144Hz. Hey network card, take this buffer and squirt it out the ethernet port at a 1 gigabit line speed for me.

And even with all that help, it still takes for-fucking-ever to get shit done. What the fuck are all those instructions doing‽

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Mine are all used up to block ads and trackers and page elements, then when they're done, I'm being throttled punitively by the service because i didn't watch their ads :(

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 73 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Cool, now do that five years ago

[–] marud@piefed.marud.fr 34 points 14 hours ago

Cool, now bring back windows 7

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 35 points 12 hours ago

Microslop can still fuck off, too little too late.

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If they want to push Bing so hard I wonder why didn't they just show you the local results first and then asynchronously load Bing suggestions in a separate section. It would make good UX while still promoting their search engine.

Good that it can be disabled though

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

show you the local results first and then asynchronously load Bing suggestions in a separate section

Actually, that's fn brilliant.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 6 points 4 hours ago

It's not brilliant, it's something a software engineer should have mentioned in the first 5 minutes of the initial design meeting. It very likely was.

So what you need to understand is that mashing Bing and local results together was a deliberate design decision. Whether to artificially inflate Bing search numbers , or to get that sweet cash from sponsored results, who knows?

[–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

How do you expect them to maximise their profits if people find what they are looking for immediately?

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[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, is it fast?.. I doubt it. Still background services sucking up all the ram.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

background services sucking up all the ram.

I love how the (mandated) Teams running on the (mandated) win11 work laptop is gobbling A GIGABYTE AND A HALF OF RAM all by itself. What the actual flapping fuck is that?

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Disabling start up items with system config helps.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Teams, like a lot of MS products, uses Edge Webview 2 (an Electron clone). So if you have Teams, and VS Code, and Chrome or Edge running you are running 3 Chromium instances.

[–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

on top of that, I'm pretty sure electron apps in the background can't be moved from RAM to Pagefile when they've been idle for a while . . . id imagine edge webview likely works the same

[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I have done this (or had this done by IT) on every Windows 10/11 machine that I have had to use. There has long been a registry tweak to kill the online search and it really does improve the experience.

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"We've listened to customer feedback and started putting REAL tomatoes into our Shitburger again. People will come flocking back in DROVES!"

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