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A year has passed since Commodore, the computer brand many of you know and love, came back from the dead under new ownership. The comeback is picking up pace too, with a lineup that already includes multiple Commodore 64 Ultimate editions, a C64X PC, and a licensing program that invites outside builders to use the name. Now, they have announced a return to the phone market, and not in the doomscrolling glass-slab avatar we are all used to, but in a retro, very equippable flip phone format....

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[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 194 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not only are the phones extremely overpriced for what they are- the images they are using for advertising are AI images, and not real pictures. Also using "Make blank great again" format for their tagline is another scoop of excrement on the shit sundae.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I had a bad feeling about the whole C64 brand when it got overhauled recently. It had vaporware startup written all over it. Guess my gut feeling was on point once again.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It had vaporware startup written all over it.

It can't be "vaporware" when they are actually releasing products for purchase.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

The C64U that they make and that my wife bought me is one of the greatest things I have ever owned.

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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 75 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

This phone should cost $150 max. What's with dumb phones charging smart phone levels of money?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 51 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I agree it's too much money. But for the record it's not a dumb phone, it is a smartphone running sailfish which can run android apps in a sandbox

However for less money, the Sony Xperia 10 III with Sailfish OS (Xperia 10 mk3) is a better buy.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

They are definitely charging way too much, the price and the browser block are the only reasons I am not buying one. I think they could reasonably price it at $250 based on the hardware and that it will certainly be a low production run which massively increases the price. Also, that Sony with SailfishOS is both old (it was released over five years ago) and refurbished, not exactly a fair comparison.

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I love how people throw around "it's too expensive". But did you ever try developing a relatively small batch gadget for the market? Plus as others said, it's not a dumb~~p~~ phone at all.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Being too expensive doesn't mean they are necessarily gouging. My wife crochets blankets as a hobby, but she'd have to charge a stupid amount to sell them at a profit if she used decent yarn and valued her time at even minimum wage. Said blanket would be "too expensive" without a doubt.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Agree, was thinking the same thing. I would have considered it at that price..

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Higher end camera and a HD DAC (maybe high power audio output?)

Those sorta things are expensive

Also it runs 99% of android apps

Probably also a low volume product which increases price

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[–] Summzashi@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's a bit far, isn't it?

Let's see what the article actually says...

Making Flip Phones Great Again
The Specs
Get Yours

This is an advertisement.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Great again" seems a very tone deaf way of advertising... unless you are trying to advertise against the product, or advertise to inbreds

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think Comodore uses that phrase in its ad copy, the phrasing comes from itsfoss

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[–] gnufuu@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

From their FAQ:

Can I install my own apps?

Web browsers and social media apps are blocked at the system level. Email and work apps are not offered through the Commostore app store, keeping Callback focused on life outside work and feeds.

Users are still be able to sideload apps outside those that are blocked, using APK installer files, but Callback is designed first and foremost as a calmer, more intentional phone.

So I can receive an Email but if it has a link to a website I can't click it? That's just silly, Commodore. You're doing a fine job being memeable and appealing to our nostalgia. Trying to "protect us from ourselves" like that kinda destroys that vibe. And no, the inevitable custom ROM circumventing your blocks won't make up for it.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, i'm intrigued by the idea of a pseudo-"dumb" phone to reduce mindless usage, but this is too restrictive to really work as a phone for a lot of people. those banned work and social apps have and will continue to supplant the phone features of a modern phone. if i got one of these, it would have to be a supplementary device, defeating the whole point! and for those of us who can use a "dumb" phone, they can just got get one for a fifth of a price

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So I can receive an Email but if it has a link to a website I can’t click it?

It says "Email and work apps are not offered through the Commostore app store". So you can't receive email unless you sideload an email app. And you could also sideload a browser as well to open a link. At which point you just have a smartphone.

[–] gnufuu@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You sure you didn't misread? To me it looks like they allow sideloading Email apps but disallow sideloading web browsers.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Being a flip phone with a T9 keyboard is already a lot of built-in friction. And some people want a device that might intentionally limit them further. But I must admit, this phrasing (and a lot of their phrasing) is kind of weird.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Funny thing is, a T9 keyboard is actually a selling point for me. Current keyboards suck without any feedback and their prediction always causes so many typos I have to go back and correct. T9 I could type without needing to look at it and know I had it right.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Web browsers are blocked at the system level

Did they ever try to use a browser on a 2" clamshell at 480*640 with a T9 keypad??? It's so painful that it's already for emergency use only, don't need to protect me from myself...

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[–] AverageEarthling@feddit.online 32 points 2 weeks ago

for that price AND using the make whatever great again slogan? fuck all the way off.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I was excited about this until i saw it was $500!! For a freaking flip phone.

[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 13 points 2 weeks ago

Same. $200 was my cap.

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Overpriced, stupid marketing, random proprietary crap, mildly interesting form factor, audio jack, microSD (but only 256GB, why?).

But more linux phones is more linux phones. I'll pass on it, but I don't hate it. You could probably just flash vanilla sailfish without much trouble.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

...So is sailfish... But ultimately I think the reason they went with it is that it is much more secure than an android phone as it ensure your privacy is respected. You can still run android applications, but you don't have to worry about Google apps spying on your activity. Similar to Graphene OS where you can actually manage the permissions of Google apps rather than allowing it to have unfettered access to everything. Or heck, you don't even need to install any Google application to be able to use either Graphene or Sailfish. To me, they are just better ecosystems. And heck, sailfish isn't the only one. There is also postmarket os, Mobian, Manjaro ARM, Arch ARM, Ubuntu Touch, PureOS, and many more.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say that shipping the phone with WhatsApp preinstalled is privacy respecting.

[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sorry, did I miss something? The commodore phone doesn't have social media applications.

Edit: Yes I did miss something. True it comes with Whatsapp running in an emulator in an LXC container. https://factually.co/fact-checks/electronics-tech/android-app-compatibility-on-sailfish-os-real-tests-a787aa

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A headphone jack with an audiophile-grade DAC? 🥵

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And when you want more music without algorithms, accounts, or another monthly subscription, just launch the built-in FM radio. Unlimited songs in your pocket, all powered by the MediaTek Helio G81 processor, with efficient passive cooling.

Why did they ever take this away from us? I was mad when they did.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

One reason is that the wire from the headphones acted as an antenna.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

It was gone way before the headphone jack was taken from us

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn’t it just Commodore? Commodore 64 was a model of computer not the company name.

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[–] Cryxtalix@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Using Sailfish OS is just trading Android for another proprietary OS. Why even bother going to all that effort and still end up back in the same place?

We have real mobile linux distros like postmarket OS and actual open source desktop environments like Phosh or plasma/gnome mobile.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Sailfish is not proprietary.

Lipstick (the UI) is proprietary. The OS itself is not.

That said, as someone who uses a SailfishOS phone everyday, I both wish Lipstick was OSS and wish this Commodore thing didn't exist. It's only going to bring poor publicity to Sailfish due to its stupid pricetag and featureset.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago

Price aside, as somebody who has gotten pretty good at ignoring my old normal slab smart phone, this might only make sense for nostalgia and conversation starter reasons.

Now if I could force this thing upon other people in my life who cannot separate their eyes from their doom-screen, we'd be on to something!

[–] tramdan@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

If you're going to spend that much on a SailfishOS phone you might as well get a good one.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Commodore fan here, but srsly, the flip design has so much more failable mechanics than a simple rectangular slab. Will anybody buy it except for the nostalgia? I expect that will soon wear off when they realize how much they miss a bigger screen.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

iMessage

Lies too, that's great!

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

on their tech overview and specs graphic

"sorry no U2"

🤣

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I could see myself using this as a daily driver.

[–] suzyq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Same. I'm eyeing that translucent one because they sure did hit that nostalgia button for me on a translucent cell phone from the early 00s.

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[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm not interested in commodore or its phones but I do hope the company makes enough money to stay in business, the world is a better place with commodore in it

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