Why would I leave a key under my mat for the cops in the first place?
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Cops can just knock down the door.
Yeah, they're used to being able to force their way in anywhere, but in the digital space, many people have steel security doors, and the police don't have a battering ram big enough.
Also, kicking down the door leaves evidence and usually require some sort of justification or approval. If they have a key to a backdoor, they don't have to tell anyone they were inside, or ask for permission to use it.
You wouldn't, but that's what governments are effectively asking be done, lending validity to the analogy.
I mean, it’s not like there’s cases of police committing abuse and misuse, are there…?
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Yeah but we saw how quickly you bowed and kissed the ring of king Trump.
That shit erodes trust.
This Tim Cook?
*Tim Apple
Also Tim cook quote, "you're so great Mr. Trump, we had an army man, nake you a special trophy just for you. The base is literally a gold bar that I'm illegally giving you. Isn't that fun, you're so great trump. Thank you trump. I love you trump. It's such a joy to socialize with you trump"
Sightly paraphrased
Politicians who don't understand technology (and some that do) will continue advocating for a break in encryption "so they can catch the bad guys."
No, you fuck. Either it's protected or it's not. I've just been listening to the latest podcast from 404 Media (you should check them out; print and audio). One of their primary stories is about cops accessing Flock cameras to stalk their ex-partners. AUTHORITY NEEDS LIMITS.
yup, and one persons freedom fighter is another person enemy and all that.
You mean Time Apple, the man that was renamed by a pedophile and then gave that pedophile a golden gift to appease him?
Stop acting like giving gold bars to a paedophile is bribery. It was obviously a payment for child prostitution.
We have an easy peasy solution to that.
We will just make it illegal for burglars to look under the mat.
And if they do look under the mat, we will also make it illegal fro them to take the key.
Finally we will also make it illegal for burglars to use the key.
See there an absolutely bullet proof solution, so why does the tech industry continue to claim this is a bad idea?
As a politician I simply can't understand why they are so contrary to this idea that will increase safety for everybody!!
/s (just in case)
Or... you and a friend on another floor put your keys under each other's mats. Then you both always have a way in and the chance of a burglar figuring it out is almost zero.
That’s security through obscurity, as well as shared keys.
What happens when the burglar in waiting watches someone grab the key and use it?
Or in the case of phone security, what happens when your address is printed on the key?
A better analogy is fire lock boxes, where apartment complexes have a master key stored in a box out front that can be unlocked with a master key firemen carry.
Unfortunately, that bic pen trick turned out to work on those lock boxes a decade or so ago, meaning all a burglar needed to get into ANY residence in ANY building with a fire lock box was a bic pen. In fact, a burglar could open the box, get the key, duplicate it, put it back in the box, and nobody would even know security had been compromised.
It’s a pretty good analogy for what’s being asked for here.
I know it's only a joke, but this comment highlights something that many folk in power seem to forget.
Houses and their doormats are in a single physical location that has an unambiguous legal jurisdiction. In any given country, if you break into a house you are subject to that country's laws.
Not so with the Internet. It's very difficult to legislate for something like this because other countries' laws can just ignore you, and you have no power over those countries and their laws. So, making things physically secure is far more effective than legislation, especially when it comes to the Internet.
It's not only a joke, it's an analogy to show how stupid the claims of politicians are, that they want to have a backdoor for law enforcement.
Of course the analogy isn't perfect for the reasons you describe, and those reasons makes it actually worse.
/s /s
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but YOU are the one GIVING the key to cops tim.
I think you're missing the point. Apple has famously resisted implemented back doors for the authorities.
He's warning against leaving that metaphorical key under the mat.
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Talk is cheap
Keep pretending that the NSA doesn't already have a million backdoors in your proprietary garbage, Tim.
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If Apple were truly serious about an individual’s security and privacy, they’d facilitate self hosted online services as peers to the versions they provide on their platforms.
They can be best in class at what they do, but exclusively locking everyone into their ecosystem obliterates any meaningful good will.
I think it's important to note that quote was from 2015.
So this was before he just made gurgling noises with Trump's ball sack in his mouth like he does now.
Doesn't apple backdoor UK users anyway?
I don't think they went through with it.
I remember reading a related article reclaimthenet
This same Home Office served Apple with a secret order, a Technical Capability Notice, demanding a backdoor into end-to-end encrypted iCloud backups, first for every human on the planet and later, after Washington threw a tantrum, for British users alone. Secret being the operative word, since the law gagged Apple from so much as admitting the order existed.
Apple’s answer was to rip its strongest encryption out of the UK entirely rather than build the thing, sniffing that it has “never built a backdoor or master key to any of our products or services,” and the fight is still grinding through the courts. That is the track record of this government, one that asks one company, in the dark, to dismantle encryption for an entire nation is not a government you hand a camera-side scanner and trust to use it gently.
Especially when the cops ARE the burglars in the first place.
Its also aimed at Bill C-22 in Canada that the liberals are trying to speedrun into a law.
Why are you drawing your curtains? You must have something to hide. All your neighbours live in glass houses, why do you insist on this strange idea of privacy? Open up, if you're not guilty there's nothing to be afraid of.
Only guilty people draw the curtains.
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I don’t put a key under the mat, even less for the cops.
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