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What happened to the monarchs with Epstein links?
Is this a typical sentence for the crimes he was found guilty of?
For a total of 40 charges seems iffy but Norways legal system uses concurrent sentencing.
The court determines a sentence based on the most severe crime (the rapes) and absorbs the lesser offenses (the drug and domestic abuse charges) into that timeframe, adding only a marginal amount of extra time.
- with a max of 20 across the board
Will he be serving his sentence in an ordinary civilian prison like any citizen convicted of the same crime, or will they designate a palace as a prison and lock him in it?
He has spent the last few months locked up in a regular prison, and has even been denied serving from home to spend time with his dying mother, so no special treatment here.
It's Norway, from what I understand even the worst Norwegian prison is vastly nicer than studio apartments in the average American city. So I suppose it depends on what your definition of "ordinary prison" is.
In most European countries prisons provide good living conditions and are safe places because the goal is to reintroduce people into society as better persons after they served their time. Not brutalize them and make them outcasts that basically can only reoffemd if they want to survive.
Exactly. Complete opposite of the US where they run prison for profit.
That is why their recidivism rate is super low.
Which is kinda counter-intuitive now that I think about it... if your life sucks outside of prison, getting back would be a priority.
How much better do those countries life if those prisons are undesirable?
I don't think it's counter-intuitive.
US prison causes severe trauma. Prisoners learn to survive in an environment where they have to engage in aggressive behavior just to get through their morning. Everything is taken from them, no opportunity for personal development, and they're thrown on the street with zero resources after. It's practically designed to force people to repeat the cycle and feed the prison system.
It's profitable too, 14th amendment and all. A prison company wouldn't want to reduce it's slave labor force so there's no incentive to do better. Historically it's an easy win for politicians too.
While I'm not a fan of most carceral systems at least the Norwegian one tries not to treat people like livestock. That said, a prison is still a cage.
You've gotta wrap your head around just how awful american life is compared to most European countries. These prisons exist to make people reflect on and regret their crimes, and to come out ready to integrate with society and not reoffend.
Life in many European countries is filled with social nets and programs that actually give people better lives.
Joffrey Baratheon-looking cunt.
Us Norwegians call him Temu-Joffrey.
He looks like he should be raising funds to eradicate fetal alcohol syndrome.
Joffrey ~~Baratheon~~Lannister-looking cunt.
FTFY
It's nice to see relatives of very powerful people facing justice. 'murica could take a page from that book.
U.K. too, heard of the noncey rapist formerly known as Prince Andrew?
You mean the whole book
Could, but we won't.
We know
Not knowing much about the legal system in Norway, I have to ask, will this person actually end up serving time?
He has been in prison since his arrest this winter, so yes he will serve it. He did get a 100 day rebate on the sentence for time already served, though.
The verdict has already been appealed by the defense, but with the stuff he has admitted to he will serve time. Maybe less after the appeal, but also maybe more :-)
This pleases me.
Justice for connected people here in the US is basically never guaranteed, as we're seeing now with Harvey Weinstein and recently with Bill Cosby.
You have to fuck with other connected people then it becomes a game of top trumps.
For example, I’m sure that Sam Bankman-Fried wouldn’t have been convicted had he only defrauded ordinary people.
You're not wrong. SBF's crime here was stealing from Epstein Class, same as Bernie Madoff.
Adding to the other reply, it should also be noted that he has already been in custody for quite some time before and during the trial. A petition for release was also denied. All this to say that he is apparently not given special treatment!
And the last petition to be released or serve from home was to spend time with his dying mother, so absolutely no special treatment.
One can only hope.
Why isn't the rest of the royal family investigated for aiding and abetting, though?
I would believe his mother would be investigated harder for this if she wasn't dying.