We have outlook classic at work, and that shit takes a solid 5 mins to actually load up my inbox enough to become functional.
Outlook has always been shit, the new AI slop is just fuel on the fire.
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my work computer runs linux, so only o365 webmail outlook, and it's... somewhat functional but the damn ai creeps in on every occasion.
automagic autocorrect that can't decide if I'm typing english, finnish, or mix of both when the occasion needs it? Nah, autocorrect it wrong 100% of the time. But I did find a toggle for it after few weeks.
the apps menu to open eg. teams when needed? only options are copilot and "other apps" - which is also copilot.
not that I need teams that often, but wtf. I started using a bookmark rather than navigating the menus.
Oh, I love "other apps". My Teams once decided that obscure features like chats and calls belong in there.
Yes, Teams. Put your core functionality out of sight. That's exactly what I wanted.
I think there's an entire department within Microsoft dedicated to just making teams as bad as possible. Is lacks features that other chat apps have had for over a decade that teams doesn't support.
Heck, I'd love it if they added a toggle to not hard-pan all audio to the left channel and drop all input from my microphone until I restart Teams and log in again despite having logged in ten minutes ago.
My department has a service that is abbreviated to PM. Since our organization uses Google for mail, I often have to battle with automagic corrections to every use of PM as a noun to "the PM".
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Check the plugins list. Some companies have a few.
Then you have slow* computers, or an inbox of 50GB+ of emails over the last decade. I've got about 20k (maybe around 15GB) email after archiving a bunch of data to a .PST, and it's much snapper.
I have to hang onto my old emails, but I'll archive to a local file since I don't need them all the time. I do it by every year, it's very helpful, makes Outlook Classic very fast again. The nice thing is the archives go into the Documents which is then backed up through OneDrive.
Then you have show computers
Definitely.
or an inbox of 50GB+ of emails over the last decade.
I didn't think so? I do a mass delete every now and then, but there always seems to me more that it's not displaying. /shrug
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Wait, which Outlook? Outlook, Outlook (New), Outlook (Old), Outlook (beta), Outlook (omega)?
I have two Outlooks and neither of them work
I just use the web one because I can't be bothered trying to work out which of the 11 outlooks I actually want.
Microsoft is such garbage these days. My coworkers and I are constantly complaining about all of our Office software that doesn’t function the way it used to and instead only makes our jobs more difficult.
If only managers/IT could see how amazing Linux is.
The productivity gains I'd have from the speed of Linux on my work machine would be noticeable. Plus my mood would greatly improve.
Windows (especially slop 11) cannot handle how much I do at once. My brain is faster than the computer now 😅
The average office worker cannot differentiate between a file explorer and a web browser. I wish corporate jobs could switch to Linux over Microsoft.
You are correct. Explaining our server vs onedrive/teams/SharePoint is a losing battle with most of their eyes glazing over if you try to explain.
Oh that's alright, everyone in my office just sticks everything in SharePoint. It's got up to 13 terabytes now and they're already whining that that's not enough. I think they're hosting 4K blu-ray rips in there.
Nah, it's probably a <1mb spreadsheet that's updated daily by multiple people that has never had version control settings enabled and it's taking up taking up 10tb.
SharePoint: this is the way.
Oooh very accurate. There is some "mandatory" signing sheet for reading the monthly safety info but anyone can edit it and most people are incompetent with computers. Took only 2 months for my name to get deleted by somebody and I just...never signed it again. Nobody noticed.
I have no idea how IT is taught in schools these days, but there should be a lesson somewhere entitled Excel is not a database, don't use it as a database.
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God, I wish I could upgrade the work computer to Linux. Unfortunately, we need software that is Windows only, and having to virtualize it counterats too many of the benefits
I switched to Linux a few weeks ago on my work laptop. My colleagues are amazed at how fast my Gradle builds are finished. My mood also improved by a lot!
I'm so jealous.
Thats great! I'm amazed at companies that would allow this. I cannot imagine ours doing it. Our IT dept hardly knows what Linux even is.
We allow people to have Linux devices or Macs if they want them but they are not our responsibility to fix if they break. If your laptop won't connect to the shared drive because it doesn't support FAT32 or something, that's your problem to fix.
In the past it would have at least been best endeavours to try and get everything up and running again but the company's grown too much and the IT department hasn't so I haven't got time to do anything that isn't strictly speaking my job.
People are always complaining about the IT department but generally the issue is that the IT department is under funded and understaffed.
Yeah if you think the guest support for the fs on the physical drive is relevant for a network share you wouldn't be really useful.
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Our office is slowly making the transition. Its been fantastic slowly getting rid of IIS, windows boxes, etc...
What are they transitioning to? It seems difficult to fully escape MicroSlop in the office environment and get everyone onboard, especially when my IT group double checks everything they do with CoPilot first. 😡
Gross.
Thankfully our management is wary of slop bots (though they allow use of it in scenarios where you aren't inputting data. Which is like every scenario soo, its useless) This however upsets the Young's that think everything should be done with slopbots (spoiler, their work is shit)
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The only solution, as you might’ve guessed, is the move to WinUI. We already reported that Microsoft is now fully committed to WinUI, with Rudy Huyn preparing a team to make native Windows apps, and so we may see a native Outlook too…
One can dream. The prevalence of web apps pretending to be native apps is unfortunate. Just because your devs “know” JavaScript doesn’t mean it is a good language.
So we are going ful circle back to native code, that has worked much faster for decades.
Web technologies on desktop applications was always a bad idea.
Just you wait until they start using webassembly to make native apps run
and tout it as an advantage! In reality it's only more convenient for the dev, and just uses up more resources and have more moving parts on the client side
Slopware
Slopslopslopslop
Gotta load up all that spyware first.
It's a feature.
Try fastmail for how to build an instant Web interface that is just ridiculously fast. Everything is instant, it has offline support, email address aliases... I dont know. Couldn't be happier. I literally have nothing to complain about at all.
Except yes, it's part of the five eyes countries, which means every email is likely also in nsa datacenters. I dont like that, and would prefer it not to.
Not true, with my 15th generation Intel processor and Samsung Pro SSD it only take six seconds to open /S
Seriously though, we need ever increasing software requirements so we can keep forcing people to buy new hardware. If that means we just stop optimizing completely and vibe code our way to the 16th generation, so be it.
I'm still bitter about Mail & Calendar. It worked wonderfully, but of course they decided to discontinue it.
Good. I want all of the bloated software on my work machine. Whoever uses outlook on their personal device is making a very bad choice.
Jesus. Funny reading this today when my old Outlook has been a complete shit show since last week, with freezing, minute-long loading times and generally being absolutely unusable for no apparent reason. I'm really loving Outlook right now...
On the plus side, the Outlook team's Agile burndown charts for the last 8 sprints look perfect!
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