Around here employers gets to pay trillions if they even put themselves in the position of snooping on employee data , like location, without a distinct need for each individual they snoop on.
Technology
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
I am curious, because the Teams hate is pretty substantial here, what are the reasons you hate Teams. I feel besides it's Microsoft (!) and it is a resource hugger plus why tf do I need a second app telling me I have a meeting besides the main one (outlook) it's okayish? Maybe because I was never allowed to try alternatives? Please, tell me
I miss Skype. I think Zoom is better. It just worked in the browser, on a Linux host. The dependencies for Teams is icky to me.
Because Microsoft, and just the constant little BS problems I'm always having with it. Which are probably a result of being subjected to Microsofts shit QA processes. They're always changing shit with it while the problems that have been there for years keep occurring. Also my work decided we don't need actual desk phones because Teams calls work just as well (they don't).
I don't think I hate teams for the same reason as most on this site. My gripe is the stability issues. Just at my department alone there are 20 different issues per teams. Some range from buttons working after a few presses to teams just bsod the device. On my laptop teams has a memory leak and which is persistent. I have to clear teams every week or it will not even start up anymore
We have teams. It sucks. They’re going to make us use it for phone calls soon.
The phone calls part is one of the better parts at least for me) for Teams. It has it's own number, works on all the devices, can forward, and works well. I don't want to carry a work phone, and don't want a desk phone in the office (even though we have ones that connect to Teams). If there is a better solution that's 'cheaper' all for it, but seems pretty sold.
Complete opposite experience for my office. Calls drop randomly, consultative transfers don’t work, holds don’t always reconnect. Had none of these issues when we had Skype for Business. Even had a VoIP consultant firm come in to review our issues, they couldn’t fix them.
I was fine with teams when we only used it for meetings, team chats, and IM.
You must not have ever had to get through a phone tree while you were conferenced with someone.
My issue with it is people using their computers for calls; we have cheap ass dell laptops and there are always echoes and lags in the audio. When they finally set us up, I’m going to make sure all my calls are routed to my cell phone.
Oh that makes sense, I typically use a headset and avoid the built in trash that most laptops have and it seems to work pretty well.
👍
Seems like malicious compliance would be using the shitty service and giving them the shitty quality connection they asked for.
And I need to have a teams mtg this afternoon, so I fired it up, and…..it didn’t work. Spent the obligatory 15 minutes on the phone with the help desk; we’ll see what happens.
“Users may hate”
Sweety, we already hate everything MS. Take a wild guess…
Management on the other hand ..
Am management. Still hate it. Costs a fucking fortune, sprawls beyond any reasonable control, fucking impossible to secure, every product has its own operating model and support, it changes every month, and the notion of leaving it is absurd. It is a disease that everyone is infected with and their sales people will never let you go. Also, it's not like I can log into a central portal and see my employees on a map or something. I can't see their searches, their teams chats, nothing really. Maybe HR could if they weren't in the parking lot eating old cigarette butts or whatever it is they do.
Its like herpes.
Yep, not to mention it's a basic messaging program, but it regularly uses 1-2gb of ram on a lot of machines at my workplace. Had a coworker vibe code a lightweight version (terminal based), he pretty easily got it down to 80ish mb, and it mostly worked (the whole thing was mostly for shits and giggles, but surprisingly usable).
Teams is anything but a basic messaging app. Over the last few years Microshit kept integrating most of their office suit into it instead of keeping their standalone apps working beyond Excel and Word. Now you have chats, teams, calls, calendar, SharePoint, planner, to-do, power BI and a million other things in one place, and only 90% of them don't work properly.
Besides, the new™ Teams is pretty much just an instance of edge with 10+ tabs open den being on the amount of addins your company has. The entire app is literally just build in edge webview, its a reskinned browser with slightly more privileges.
Oh, I agree, I just found it rather funny that a random person was able to bring down teams ram usage without much trouble, something that Microsoft doesn't seem to care about. Teams really needs just to be paired back to messaging and video/audio calls, all of the other stuff just aren't used.
Users as in (office) workers. I cast a enormous doubt that there is no living person who chose Teams over literally any other messaging app just to use it for their main way of communication outside of their workspace.

I was at Shiny Night at one of the local Seattle furry bars a little while back and wound up hanging out with a bunch of folks in really well articulated fursuits talking shop. Eventually, as it does with any group of devs, the topic drifted to the classic game of "who hates Teams the most" and unfortunately it turned out the people I was drinking with:
1- Were mostly M$ developers working on Teams doing their 'team bonding' polycule thing.
2- Hate teams more than I could possibly ever manage. I mean, you think you hate teams? You think it's unmanagable, insecure, convoluted and a pain in the ass for your IT crew? Imagine what the backend for that disaster must look like, then make that your entire day job. My god, it was a level of vitriol matched only by discussing Deutsche Bhan with a group of drunk Germans...
Basically, Microsoft Places and Teams have received workplace check-ins via Wi-Fi. The idea is that if an employee arrives at the office and connects to their enterprise network, their profile status indicator will show them as being present in the office.
Joke's on you. My work is so stingy, they don't offer WiFi to employees. Also, I've blocked location permissions in Teams, just in case.
God damn I hate this universe, why is technology a tool to create new shackles instead of breaking old ones
Because it makes the people at the top more powerful.
Was there ever a MS Teams feature anyone actually liked? Seems like the whole product is based on loathing.
it reduces the need to manually update your status, and it also enables co-workers to know that you're at work so that they can coordinate in-person meetings with you.
They're not even trying with these weak ass justifications anymore. Are either of these things an actual problem for anyone?
If it's a new Teams feature I'm going to hate it regardless of what it does. MS doesn't make software for human beings any more.
I too have a hard time seeing management as human,
We aren't. When you humans are busy working, we go to the basement and eat the remants of your souls.
We also go to a lot of pointless meetings.