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[–] M33@piefed.world 2 points 5 days ago

2026: some invisible or light grey on white background |

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 133 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it's 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that's about 2% darker than white.
Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

I use pgdn btw.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 31 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

It's a few lines of css, no JS required.

.my-div:hover {
  overflow-x: scroll;
}

And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s the start menu that’s written in react.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And Microsoft Store. And the weather. And also in that edition that literally just launches a browser into a remote machine, they decided to make the Ctrl + Alt + Del menu also a browser. For some reason.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

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[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

My cursor kept slipping off them all the time anyway 😢

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now you can't even find the fucking thing when you need it. Thanks, "UX design".

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

UX, whatsat?

Also, it completely disappears after a second.

And why is it a different color on the addons page anyway??

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

imho the clustered version of the scroll bar buttons (like in Amiga Workbench 2.0+, Macintosh OS, macOS, KDE) make way more sense to me (minimal mouse movement to change scroll direction) than this spread out layout.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

OS X Lion apparently forgot to add the scroll bar entirely

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

The only one that makes sense.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hope somebody got fired for that epic blunder

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[–] zonklezoop@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2009, pls.

But I guess with the end caps from 2006.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1998 not only had the best scrollbar, but the best UI overall. Shoulda just stopped then and we would have utopia by now

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say 2001 and 2006 purely because the scrollbar is textured in a way that make it seem dragable at first glance |=|.

Which is standard by now but still, besides that 1998 has all the other visual cues to denote what's clickable and i would otherwise agree as i generally prefer flatter designs.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 weeks ago

2012? Elder? Cmon, it wasn't that long ago... wait... no...

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1998 was in my formative years with computers, so I will always be partial to it. Xfce can get pretty close.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly I’m partial to it as well. Possibly for the same reasons, but also because the bar and buttons are clearly defined and have good contrast. The later designs begin to fade out until now the scroll bar is just a thin line, which is sometimes hidden, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how 1998 looks. It is clean and servers the purpose. 2001-2009 feel over designed, 1988 and 2012 not sure whether the dark part is the scroller or the light part lol.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

Story of our society right there

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And then they got thinner every year while screens got wider..

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

But our eyes cant see more than a few pixels wide anyways!

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 11 points 2 weeks ago
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I miss my big chonky scroll bars. now they hide them.

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[–] poinck@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To me, they are just indicators of how much content I can expect. I scroll with the mouse wheel or using the page down/up keys. I don't grab the thing. I only need to see the indicator when I am scrolling.

But I wonder whether there is a accesibility aspect to always visible and wide scrollbars. I think, the best way to deal with it, is to make it an option how they look and behave.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Definitely either 88 or 98. Large, very visible, no bullshit. I prefer 98, but would also be perfectly happy with 88. The reason I like 98 better than 88 is because 98, while not as high of contrast, is closer to if it's physically there, with shadows and stuff, and therefore visually faster recognizable as a scroll bar, it's more intuitive.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Give me 98 with the little lines of the next 3. I think it enhances noticeability quite a lot without adding a distracting amount of contrast

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

Agree. 98 with grip would be my ideal.

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[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What was wrong with the high contrast of 1988?

It is at home in both light and dark mode

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My only criticism is lack of affordance on the slider. Is the dark part the slider or the light part? Some of the newer ones have the little ridges for "traction".

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The issue with 1988 is that it isn't intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.

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[–] antonim@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Do you remember the feel of switching from 1998 to 2001? It felt like stepping into the future.

It never got better than 1998

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1988 still the best one, somehow

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

agreed. no embellishment, just design that makes the functionality obvious.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By 2026 AI does the scrolling for you, a feature made mandatory (all scrollbars removed) in 2028 😭

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And pauses for 30 seconds over each ad.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I miss that glass aesthetic from 2001

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

'98 to '09 was the sweet spot. Textures make the page slider easier to spot and use.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

2009 was peak

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