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[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nu uh, the casing can be replicated and the anti matter can be siphoned from the ships engines.

Source: Star Trek Adventures

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

That's also how it works in the recent game where you replay Voyager's journey. You just have your engineers research photon torpedo building, and then doing so uses up a portion of your normal tech resources.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

have to open it in a new tab to see it more clearly idk why.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

ok but the tos example was just that they found harry muds ship adrift in space.

Looks good to me

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[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not a continuity error specifically, but this has always irked me: In STIV, Kirk says that he and Spock are headed "back to San Francisco", presumably from Sausalito. But anyone with a passing knowledge of geography can see from the position of the bridge behind them that they are, in that moment, standing in San Francisco. In fact, you can see Sausalito across the bay behind them.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

PSA: There's a special screening of Star Trek IV in San Francisco on June 13 to honor the 40th anniversary. Nick Meyer (writer/producer on IV) will be there. I'm sure he will be pleased to explain how a wizard did it.

https://www.voguemovies.com/nicholas-meyer

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I rewatched this movie recently and noticed this as well! Still one of my favorites.

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, definitely one of the greats!

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's not a continuity error as such, but I'm a big fan of all the technologies that by rights should have completely upended galactic civilization but then just get forgotten.

The Genesis device should be an appalling superweapon that would change the face of war.

And then those missiles from Generations that can kill an entire solar system should, too.

And the time on TNG that they stumbled on a weird transporter trick that could make it so no one would ever need to die of old age ever again.

And the Tribble blood that cures death.

And so forth.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Presumably every warp capable species would have the ability to construct a few thousand hydrogen bombs (or weapons even more powerful) so would have the capability of wiping out life on a planet if they wanted to. So the Genesis device wouldn't be a thing that would change the face of war, the problem was that a crazy person had such a weapon.

Though Star Trek is kinda hand wavy around nuclear weapons in general... maybe photon torpedoes are more powerful than an H-Bomb? But it doesn't feel that way. At any rate, Starfleet, the Klingons, Romulans, etc. all have technology to wipe out a planet because we have that technology in the present day. They just don't do that I guess? To me that's the real continuity error.

And the time on TNG that they stumbled on a weird transporter trick that could make it so no one would ever need to die of old age ever again.

Another time a transporter accident led to a copy of Riker (with all of his memories) both on the ship and on the planet. You could recreate those conditions and create endless copies of people. The Federation wouldn't do that because of morals and stuff, but the Dominion wouldn't give a shit. They could have their best squad of Jem Hader stand on a transporter pad and beam down endless copies of them down onto a planet. They're cloning people anyway, so why not take it to the next level?

The transporter is just endless continuity problems. Shields are down, oh no they're beaming over boarding parties! Why are they doing that instead of using the transporting the crew of the enemy ship into their brig (if they're good guys) or into space (if they're bad guys)?

[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

I can suggest an explanation - conservation of mass/ energy.

let's assume that Lt Riker's ship had to use up at least 40kg of antimatter (and 40kg of matter, but that's cheap) to generate the energy for that transporter operation that produced a whole extra 80kg Riker.

that's a bare minimum with perfectly efficient engines and transporters, so it was probably well over 70kg of antimatter.

the Dominion decides that a few years of growing and training new troops is far less expensive than spending so much antimatter.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

you ever read bad space. he has a great one where they have something like a transporter so they start remaking everything but the brain to a younger pattern.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 11 points 1 day ago

Don't forget Doctor Giger's Cellular Regeneration and Entertainment Chamber!

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Warp 10 and salamanders. Great examples 👌

But what about TNG 7x09, the one where we learn that warp travel damages subspace and that a warp speed limit is the solution?

Later, the Federation Council issues a new directive limiting all Federation vessels to a speed of warp five except in extreme emergencies.

Laughs in Janeway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_of_Nature_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

But what about TNG 7x09, the one where we learn that warp travel damages subspace and that a warp speed limit is the solution?

That was an analogy for Global Warming. The government issued a big proclamation but never actually did any real action about it.

[–] directive0@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isnt the warp speed limit part of the in universe reason that Voyager has new variable nacelle geometry?

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had no idea they were related, but apparently they were (thanks 😉). But that too was soon retconned:

According to comments by Michael and Denise Okuda, when mentioning of the speed limit was abandoned a few years after "Force of Nature", it was assumed that newer ships, such as the USS Voyager and USS Defiant, had improved environmentally friendly warp drive systems, that did not cause damage to the spatial continuum.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Variable_geometry_pylon

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's technically not canon anyway, and I don't really like it as an explanation, since we don't see variable-geometry nacelles on other ships of the era.

Best to assume they solved the subspace damage problem through some other means, IMO.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

I like to think a party got elected that felt warp speed tearing up subspace was a fakenewz hoax.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

janeway? I don't think ships stranded so far they are unlikely to get back are going to be obeying speed edicts. the whole setup is an extreme emergency.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm watching VOY at the moment, and it makes no sense how Seven of Nine's parents would have made contact with and been assimilated by the Borg, decades before Q threw the Enterprise-D across the galaxy to make (what we assumed to be) first contact with them.

In "Q who", meeting the Borg is portrayed like blood in the water — now they have learned of the Federation, they will not stop until you are assimilated. Except oh wait, they did assimilate those three humans several years before, so they would have already known about the Federation.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Even TNG is weird about that, since their method of attacking colonies is called out as being identical to the attacks along the Neutral Zone at the end of season one, so the Borg had been operating in the Federation and Romulans' back yards for a while.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 10 points 1 day ago

Yyyyeahhhh... 😬 That's not exactly planned out.

Also, the idea that Borg are fine with other beings running around their ships as long as you don't point a phaser at them, or other aggressive gesturing I suppose. That's out the window by the time of VOY "Dark frontier", Janeway and Tuvok are carrying phaser rifles at the ready all around the Borg sphere.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't her parent seek out the borg? I am more confused on why the borg would send a drone from the alpha quadrant to the delta quadrant.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, they went on their research expedition because apparently rumours about those weord transhumanister Swedes had already reached the Federation? Again, 18-20 years before "Q who"... The timeline is messed up, even before we consider time travel.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago

yeah it sounded like at the level of mythology way at the frontier of colonies toward the delta quadrant. They went into the delta quadrant in their search for years. so like I think even the crazy hillbilly colonists thought of it as a fairy tale to scare children.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The warp scale changed. The Enterprise exceeded warp 10 several times in the Original Series. Then that infamous episode of Voyager claims that warp 10 is a theoretical limit which is difficult to reach and literally impossible to exceed.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

This my head canon... In the movies they were working on transwarp drive on the Excelsior. The warp factor on transwarp drives is different from a regular TOS warp drive.

When Sulu put the hammer down on the Excelsior in ST VI, it proved that transwarp was just way better than regular warp drive. For whatever reason they couldn't make transwarp work on the Constitution class so most of them were decommissioned.

By the time of TNG, pretty much everything is transwarp, so no one bothers calling it that ,they just call it warp drive since it became the standard. The transwarp factor is used everywhere, but everyone just calls it warp factor.

So it's kinda like a change from imperial to metric units.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scotty was simply that good at tweaking the engines. That, or the crew were just playing to Kirk's ego, pretending to go super fast à la "this amp goes to 11” while they trundled along at warp 7.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Moving at 10+ in TOS was always due to some alien influence or something. The Enterprise engines were definitely not capable of those speeds under normal conditions.

With that said, in TOS, warp 10+ is just "you are moving really fast". But in VOY, warp 10 is "you are literally occupying every point in space simultaneously" and there is nothing past warp 10. It is a complete reimagining of the ceiling to warp speed. In TOS, it seemed there was no theoretical maximum warp speed, just like how there is no theoretical maximum to kilometers per hour. But by VOY, warp was capped at 10, and once you reached that speed, you became a salamander because reasons.

The best fan explanation for the retcon that I have seen to justify why the scale appears to differ in-universe is that they are genuinely different units. That at some time between TOS/VOY, scientists made some new breakthrough in their understanding of warp mechanics and discovered that there actually was a ceiling to warp speed. As such, they decided to change the standard warp units, making "warp 10" this new ceiling and everything else is just a fraction of that. According to this logic, when Scotty says "Wow, we are traveling at warp 30!" he is speaking in TOS-era warp units, which might translate to just something like "warp 8" in VOY-era units.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago

Frankly, I never saw the salamander thing as a real downside to transwarp 🦎

[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The 2009 movie. Just, like, the whole thing.

(And I'm not even talking about differences between the JJ-verse and the "prime" timeline; I'm talking about shit not making any damn sense in the internal context of the plot. Kirk was a mutinous fuck-up cadet who should've been thrown out the airlock when Spock had the chance, not promoted straight from cadet to captain by the end of the movie!)

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

This would be the same continuity in which magic villain blood is found to be the cure for actual death, and they use it once and then never speak of it again.

This could be argued to be a thing related to the split from the original timeline, but the Kelvin version of Chekov is born four years earlier than his original timeline counterpart.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago

maybe its closer to the mmo universe where everyone goes from just graduating the academy as a ensign to being made leuitenant but given a command as part of it.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Klingons look very different through the various shows. And more than just costuming progress of the time.

TOS:

TNG-era, the one I think most people would think of:

Discovery:

And the latest show, Academy, reverts back to TNG-era style Klingons.

[–] aldhissla@piefed.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So how big are DS9 and the Defiant actually? The scales were all over the place.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The Defiant is big enough for a runabout to easily fly around inside of it.

[–] aldhissla@piefed.world 5 points 12 hours ago

And if Honey, I didn't shrink the kids?

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