I bet that rich dumb ass would love this comparison.
It's amazing that it's been 12 years since Elon had this image deleted from the internet:
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How much do clothes cost in the Matrix?
Clearly not deleted.
Apparently Edison wasn't even the first historical tech bro, but some French dude that eventually killed himself with his "own" invention. And the very first modern techbro was Steve Jobs, who gets cited more and more often as an influence as Elongated Muskrat is becoming more and more far-right.
Was Jobs really a techbro? I usually think of techbros as being fairly political/libertarian (or some interpretation of libertarianism, at any rate), while Jobs was afaik pretty apolitical.
Jobs was the same ilk, he just had better optics at that time. If he lived today, he'd sell out to whatever party they let him to outsource the manufacturing (and coding) to the cheapest possible country. Maybe he'd even double down on the whole AI thing.
And Elon is the Musk of our times imo
This meme hurts me physically every time it gets reposted. It is not a complete picture of anything, it's just easy to make people thoughtlessly accept stories if they shit on Elon, who to be clear deserves it. Those two guys were the first guys who started Tesla to bring the work of AC Propulsions to market. They are first and foremost tech millionaires (now quite likely billionaires) and do not deserve idolization either. The engineers of AC Propulsion ie Wally Rippel who also helped design the EV1 are the ones who actually made the technology happen.
The Tesla guys had the idea to put the tzero concept and tech into production shoved into a Lotus Elise and to market it to silicon valley investors as essentially a tech company. Elon was the main investor who went for it, also after speaking to AC Propulsion about putting the tzero into production. The rest is pretty well documented history of Elon being a huge asshole who accomplished very little if anything off his own merit while pushing out everyone around him.
But as far as "These are the real founders of Tesla" goes, the only things they did on their own was suggest AC Propulsions to put the tzero into production a bit sooner than Elon and deciding to create a tech startup to license the tzero technology and put it into a Lotus and style it as a tech company. If you want to inform people of the real heroes behind the electric car and Tesla, teach people about the tzero, AC Propulsion, Wally Rippel, and the other engineers who made the battery electric vehicle a feasible reality.
Fuck them. Starting a private company and then selling it to some tool doesn't make these guys great people. They exploited their employees and sold the company to some guy to exploit some more. I'm not sympathizing with capitalists because of other capitalists.
Unpopular opinion: Edison wasn't nearly as bad as people are painting him to be.
Extra unpopular opinion: Musk is, very much, quite similar to Nikola Tesla, as he was an extravagant lunatic, that really liked talking about shit he had no idea about, a bitter loser that prefered playing the victim over accepting responsibility for his failures, and he also had fanboys that mindlessly gobbled up everything he said.
Edit: Hey, cowards, instead of just downvoting me, how about some of you try to help the one brave man that actually tried to prove me wrong, he seems to be bruised from falling flat on his face so many times
Inaccurate opinion more like it. Dude pulled Trump shit and just refused to pay people he owed. Tesla died in poverty while Edison owed him tens of thousands of dollars, sure he isn't that bad..... Its like saying Henry Ford wasn't an absolute piece of shit.
Source?
~~Education~~ Edison owed him 50k, roughly 1.2 million dollars in today's metrics.
Several months after Edison employed him, Tesla announced that his work was successfully completed. When Tesla asked to be paid, however, Edison seemed astonished. He explained that the offer of $50,000 had been made in jest. "When you become a full-fledged American you will appreciate an American joke," Edison said. Shocked and disgusted, Tesla immediately resigned.
Not just a shitty person but a literal bigot that likely would have followed ford in aligning himself with Hitler, he simply didn't live long enough and missed it but like 7 years.
I'd really like to see where you got that quote, because it's complete bullshit. This story originally comes from Tesla's autobiography:
The Manager had promised me fifty thousand dollars on the completion of this task but it turned out to be a practical joke.
But you see that? He never said it was Edison, just 'The Manager'.
Btw in that same book Tesla calls Edison "a wonderful man".
Edit: nvm, I found what you quoted. It's this fucking pile of garbage
Where did you find that. I've got multiple sources who say the same, you've got "nuh uh" for a subject better you not I were alive to know first hand.
How is sourced PBS publication "a fucking pile of garbage" you never even offered actual criticism.
Ed: another, this one from 1919.
Where did you find that
I told you. In Tesla's literal autobiography called "My Inventions", full text of which you can find here.
I've got multiple sources who say the same
None of them are Tesla though. It's all just a giant echo chamber all quoting each other, sometimes changing it slightly, but noone ever can be bothered to actually check the primary sources.
you've got "nuh uh" for a subject better you not I were alive to know first hand
Wha?
How is sourced PBS publication "a fucking pile of garbage"
It doesn't seem to contain any sources whatsoever. They also say that "Tesla claimed" those things, yet they never say where or when he supposedly claimed that.
The link you sent doesn't seem to contain anything, but it looks like it's supposed to link to the magazine "Electrical Experimenter", so I went ahead and checked its every 1919 issue. Couldn't find what you're claiming. In fact I couldn't find anything negative about Edison at all. Curious.
The earliest source I could find of that claim is a book called "Prodigal Genius: The Life of Nikola Tesla", released in 1944, so a year after Tesla's death, and it also doesn't say where that quote is actually taken from. Interestingly, the author of this book claims that upon hearing the request for payment Edison said: "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor". So quite different to what the PBS article claims. In fact, it seems like the newer the source, the more villainous and bigoted that alleged quote becomes.
You're welcome to prove me wrong though. If you show an actual, trustworthy, primary source, I will change my mind.
Biography not autobiography, big difference.
Yours isn't either.
You didn't provide a source, it's not hard to figure out.
They're at the bottom boss.
It does check again, I linked it directly it just didn't preserve the highlight.
Ironic that the company is named Tesla.
Nikola is probably rolling in his grave. May that glorious man rest in peace.
It's incredible. Musk held all the aces, Tesla, SpaceX, Crypto (debatable). He was viewed as a pioneer, as a philanthropist. But it seems social media fucks up every one of us. Image Nixon, it would have been immensely insightful if we had social media back then EDIT: Nixon would have been a smart Trump, fuck that timeline
who cares about cars SpaceX is where the future is starlink and starship.
A random person was just so upset that there was a post about a topic that they personally don't care about, that they decided to whine about it in said post.
A lot of people care about cars. In some countries they are required to do anything.
So, do you do this often?