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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And I reject everything on flatpak

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 32 minutes ago

Thanks for letting us know.

[–] mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Good. I hope this puts a dent in the number of new projects that use AI. I also hope Flathub implements a system to clearly flag existing submissions that have used it.

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

There is no way people will change their workflow because of flathub. They will just not use it anymore.

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 14 hours ago

And yet another reason to use it instead of snap.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I was already sold on flatpaks, but now Flathub is going to be my main repo.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It was in second place because having to constantly go into Flatseal for permissions can get annoying.

[–] omzwo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'll just say that assuming this policy excludes vulnerability/pen testing like Mozilla with Mythos then this is seriously going to be an extremely naive PR (public relations) only move. Obviously actual programmers not bot laziness for coding is essential for software people rely on and I get allowing vibe coding also destroys programmer (and general LLM user's) brains but to keep up with our now LLM real world reality you need to be realistic not just virtue signalling for purity.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, it's really not necessary. I'm senior dev at a large software company you've absolutely heard of and I'm just as productive as my colleagues who use LLMs. My tasks usually take fewer PRs as well, since there are fewer bugs that need to be fixed.

I still don't understand why people are foaming at the mouth about LLMs. They're fucking awful at writing software.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

Of course it's not necessary. I'm a way-beyond-senior dev who laughed at LLMs up until a few months ago when trusted friends, whose competence is not in question, told me they got good usage out of them.

I decided to challenge my convictions and sat down and took the time to learn how to use LLM assistants (I tried everyting from full vibe coding to manual gatekeeping of suggestions).

Now I use them for my own personal projects, and I'm much more productive (for various reasons - but one is that the initial friction of oh yet another thing I have to learn just to do X is much lower. I have no boss telling me what to do, and I select my projects myself. If they didn't bring any benefits I wouldn't use them.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

I still don’t understand why people are foaming at the mouth about LLMs. They’re fucking awful at writing software.

That's because you appear to actually have the skills required for your job.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Based. This is great news.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I would say yes and no. I don't think it's entirely horrible as a programming assistant. I used it just a week ago to perform a series of UI upgrades. I probably wouldn't have learned anything doing it myself, just mindlessly following the upgrade guide until it's all done. It would've taken me a day at least, between meetings and other distractions, but an agent did it for me, unattended, in about 5 min. I still verified functionality afterwards and fixed a couple tests.

In some respects it kind of feels like the argument I had with a coworker over the use of Lombok (a tool for injecting common but often tedious coding patterns in Java). I was on the side of not using it because some of the patterns are important to understand and not understanding the implementation can lead to misuse of them. Eventually I decided it was a "necessary evil" and that using stuff like that could free me up for tackling the stuff that is completely unique and wouldn't be found in any library. The fun stuff.

I still hate data centers and AI revenge porn and AI scams and people that replace perfectly functioning tools and experienced workers with AI bots that aren't nearly as reliable. But I don't think it's an inherently bad technology.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 13 hours ago

I recently got assigned to a project where portions of the UI has been LLM vomited. It does not conform to web standards, and it doesn’t give a fuck about accessibility.

There’s a custom checkbox component whose label isn’t clickable. I’ve had to fix so many little things because someone couldn’t be bothered to do it right and chose to outsource their thinking to something that can’t think.

My view on LLM usage is essentially, if you don’t give a fuck about what you’re doing, why should anyone else? If you don’t care enough about your project to actually develop it yourself, why should Flathub platform it?

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

So this is some what problematic. Technology has benefits does not mean it has to be allowed. Question is what do we gain and at what cost. If the answer is we gain speed, then the followup is "does it really matter?".

Speed of coding is the common answer. Another one is non programmers are able to make programmes. Both of it does not add much of a real value is the point. Because when the machine churn out code at a very high rate, then the humans who should review it gets under pressure. We are not addressing the real bottleneck, instead we just pump out more material which just intensify the congestion at the bottleneck. Quality goes down, we get things like AWS going down, Microsoft wiping people's machines, etc. In other words it creates problem without much meaningful gain.

Regarding the non-programmers making programmes, it mostly just create a lot of noise. There is a lot of weekend projects, one shot attempts, or some half cooked outcomes. Only a handful of projects with meaningful impact in the world will be born out of it. We all know, even before AI, out of hundreds of thousands of GitHub repos only a small section is actually well maintained, and deliver something to the world.

I don't have to explain at what cost. It is just literally affecting the climate and accelarting the collapse of current ecosystem. Are we doing this so that a code can be written in 1 hour, instead of one day? If you get more free time because of this, well, at least we can say the load is reduced. But we all know we just get more work to do from our employer. So I don't really think this is a net positive.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We all know out of hundreds or thousands of GitHub repos only a small section is actually well maintained, and deliver something to the world.

...That was literally no different before AI.

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

Oh. I meant before AI only. I should have clarified that.

[–] teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 34 points 22 hours ago (12 children)

How can they tell if it's AI-assisted?

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I wasn't a fan of flathub or flatpacks but this gives a glimmer of hope that there's at least a glimmer of hope for it.

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's silly. They even acknowledge that AI-generated code is inevitable and that exceptions will be made. Looks like a (hopefully) temporary measure to give maintainers some space to breath.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Death and taxes are inevitable as well but I don't see yall being earlier adopters for that

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Pointless exaggerations aren't inevitable either, but you adopted and shared one. Pointless and "witty" exaggerations won't change the outcome of the process though. Which is why robust and transparent AI policies are required.

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[–] kablez@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If ChatGpt is telling me how good I am while I code, is that AI assisted coding?

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago

But my app I'll have no idea how to maintain?!

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