Meanwhile cummunists call everyone they don't like virgins.
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sounds like something a fuckin' lib would say π€¨π€
Whatever shitlib
MLs splintering and accusing each other of liberalism is a time honored tradition
To be fair, I don't think anarchists are immune to sectarianism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Durruti_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederaci%C3%B3n_Nacional_del_Trabajo
The Spanish revolution was quite a unique situation. It's not like this keeps repeating among anarchist circles. The point being made is that this is a common occurrence
Unfortunately for the CNT, it seems like the sectarianism never ended.
Also, isn't ziq/Raddle super hostile to you/us for not being post-leftists? Like we definitely have sectarian tendencies. Edit: Which I think you are/the Anarchist Flotilla is doing a great job at keeping at bay, hence why you don't notice it so much.
There's always going to be disagreements, even pretty acerbic ones, but overall I don't see the same kind of downright hate between anarchists who disagree with each other, like I see from splintered ML groups. I've been in online anarchist comms since 2008 or so, and it's always been like this, even in the massive shitstorms of reddit circa 2010 or so, people weren't denying their opponent's anarchism. ML factions otoh are known for sending fucking assassins at each other :D
Kind of like how Newsome and Trump called each other communists.
Did Newsome really do this? Fucking idiot (I mean Newsome, just to be clear).
It's so frustrating. Time and again in democracies, we're shown that most people are best served by the policies of the left. But the left keep losing with breathtaking consistency, because of ignorance and infighting. If the politically aware were able to compromise with each other enough to organise and campaign, they would be able to inform the politically ignorant enough to walk every election.
Communists and liberals should be able to find some common ground and just work from there, instead of focusing on their differences. This is what the right does, and that's why it's winning.
It's because the left are bad at propaganda (maybe on purpose). Really stupid ppl need rituals. The right provides those. The left doesn't want to manipulate ppl and doesn't want to be a cult or look conform. So they don't unite under one banner.
The right has chants and new racist drinking songs every year. They like dressing up in uniforms, wave qestionable flags. This appeals to ppl who want to belong.
If a large group of leftist parties could agree on things like that, the differences would just be factions within a united group.
You know, like maga hats. Vague. Harmless at first glance. No difficult history. Unites the sheeple.
I dunno, the left does it differently. 1984 is one of the most acclaimed novels of the 20th century and it's leftist propaganda. Star Trek is leftist propaganda. The Beatles are leftist propaganda. Mr. Rogers. The Muppets, countless other kids' TV shows.
We've got all the best tunes, the best messages and the depth to back it up. We just need to stop disagreeing about stupid shit, and stop treating discomfort like it's a war crime.
There are some fundamentals that we all agree on, like equality, the sanctity of human life and human dignity and the freedom to do what you want as long as it harms nobody.
1984 is more anti-authoritarian propaganda, than leftist propaganda I would say.
I mean, I would be happy to work together, but historically speaking (almost) every time we did we were fucked over.
That's true for the right as well. No one faction gets everything, or often anything it wants.
That propaganda isn't propagandy enough, or do you run around every day with a Star Trek com badge or wear a Star Trek uniform to protests? And even if you did, how willing would the Average Joe be to follow your lead? Further more, these are commercial franchises. You can't have some company have the power to change the meaning of them.
Ok fair point. But I think that just any level of critical thinking is leftist propaganda in a way. Science says there is a gender spectrum, autism is real, the climate is collapsing, our current economic models don't work, sociopaths tend to get into power, all of these scientifically verifiable facts are considered leftist. True art that asks you fundamental questions is leftist, because examining the human condition leads you to conclusions that abhor suffering. That can be graffiti or a scene in a Pixar movie.
I think my point is that the left don't need manipulative propaganda, because we have truth on our side. And if we were able to rally properly, that would be enough.
That truth doesn't say "be one of us and be proud".
Also, you have it reversed: We are not able to rally properly, because we don't do manipulative propaganda. You have to get ppl off their asses nowadays. Most ppl are like really, really stupid. They need to be led. If we don't do it, the fascists will. Also the regressives (often called conservatives) actively make ppl more stupid, because they know the left won't harvest those sheeple.
Looks like something a liberal would do
Humans as a whole are probably hopeless. Itβs always the same cynical shit in the end
Humans as a whole are fine. We should probably focus on the few that grab power and drag the rest of us down. We've done it before, we'll do it again. Things are going to be different, but we'll be okay.
I never asked for a sermon
Agree, every literal communist should clown on anarchists more instead
Don't you have some workers to betray or smth? π
Don't you have bedtimes to abolish?
Why are you in an anarchist community hosted on an anarchist instance posting from an anarchist instance if you think anarchists need to be clowned on?
Are you being sarcastic or should I be banning you from this comm?
Nah it's a joke, figured it was a really funny thing to say on a post calling for communist unity.
In that case you need to be more clear because it's not coming our as a joke at all, but rather as a violation of the comm's rules.
What rule would that be though? I'm not really seeing it
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pretty sure hes serious
Just making sure
I'd prefer we not recreate the Makhno situation
Wait till you hear about anarcho-communists.
Pannekoek already called them "radical liberals" in one of his texts
Well I guess everyone's wrong once in a while π