YDI, rules like that exist for a reason. People in charge of communities don't want hostile people attacking others or starting fights with people.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
- Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
Not the friendliest comment given the general assumption of the community that people are largely posting things they have cooked, but not ban worthy.
They were banned for saying "ah yes a rotting corpse"?
Thats a bit precious to ban someone for a snide coment like that. Applied equally there must be many snide comments in other topics, such as the US GOP or to Marxist Leninists, that should be banned on Lemmyworld.
I'm surprised at the way the votes have gone on this one.
Edit: Why not just remove the offending comment? Was the rest of their behaviour so atrocious?
I did not say rotting but yea
True, my bad.
like you’re the one who’s being oppressed.
Who is oppressing you, exactly? Who’s forcing you to eat meat, and denying you the choice of what foods you want to eat? Please tell us where the sausage gulag is that you’re being held in so we can liberate you!
Edit to add: Those ribs look fucking amazing, if I do say so myself.
I’m not being oppressed, the animals are.
Ah, that makes more sense. Guess I just assumed the most absurd interpretation based on the context of the rest of your bloviation.
This is YDI.
Not for calling a dead thing a corpse, but because of your second comment.
When a community has a kindness/civility rule, we're all expected to follow it, no matter how strong our beliefs.
And, tbh, even if a community doesn't have a listed rule for civility, it really should be the default behavior anyway. Not that I can claim to always err on the side of niceness, gods know I'm an asshole. But when I'm an asshole and I get banned, I deserved it.
Civility isn't just not insulting someone. It's about trying to remember the human.
However! Had I been the mod in question, I'd also have banned the other user for being an asshole to you in the first place.
Extremism is always bad even for noble causes
Personally think it’s pretty extreme to kill animals
Omnivory is completely natural. You seem to have a problem with nature.
It’s natural to shit in the forest. But more on topic; there’s loads of immoral things happening in nature (eg rape and infanticide) yet we’d never use that as a justification in those cases.
I appreciate your choices. I really do. I won't stop eating meat, but you are welcome to your own choices. Just don't try pushing them on me.
You’re pushing your choices onto innocent animals who do not have a voice they can use to protest your violence.
You knew where you were posting. Their reply sucked by so did your comment, which wasn't kind.
In my experience, the best way to get people to think about their diets is to show them good vegan food because the hungry mind has no rationality. You're trying to slap a steak away from someone who's salivating. Show them a blackbean burger or quinoa shepherd's pie or tempeh breakfast wrap instead.
Show me quinoa shepherds pie please
I don't have an image, but I can tell you the recipe. Note: I rarely measure anything.
Base: Cook 1 cup of quinoa in 2 cups of vegetable stock. Once cooked, mix in minced garlic, onion, red pepper and parsley, a few drops of liquid smoke, a sprinkle of cumin and a squeeze of lemon juice.
Middle: Corn niblets, peas and carrots diced small.
Top: Potatoes and/or yams cooked and mashed with salt, pepper and your choice of vegan butter or oil and/or coconut cream (if you don't mind coconut taste.)
Bake all this in an 8" pan for 30min at 350F. Vegan cheese on top is optional but encouraged.
Mushroom Sauce: Simmer a 1.5cups of water in a small saucepan, whisk in a spoonful or two of arrowroot powder (cornstarch works too.) When the sauce starts to thicken, add in salt, pepper, chopped mushrooms (chanterelles are GREAT if you can get them,) minced garlic, cumin and Italian seasoning. Let simmer a few minutes, then let the flavors mingle on low while your pie bakes.
When ready, cut a slice, drizzle with sauce, enjoy.
Thanks, will give it a shot. I usually only make shepherds pie when I have leftover meat that I grind and use as the base, so, not often.
No problem. It works great with any kind of base.
Yeah I literally can’t do that because they banned me
I'm sure you can think of a way to keep talking to people.
I mean they were right.
Just a tip for the future, if you want to sell veganism to people, soapboxing under a FoodPorn post of some barbecued ribs trying to argue that the picture is gore is not an effective way of doing it.
YDI.
I don't think you're making much sense in the reply there, but it shouldn't be a kindness issue, yeah.
The other person also was not banned.
I have to assume it was not about that reply at all but rather the initial comment.
Which yes, given the context, is quite inappropriate you got to realize.
Going to someones stuff they care about and calling it a technically correct but off-putting/controversial description is not nice. Either you are trying to ruin it for everyone there, or trying to bring an unwanted discussion into the post.
- BE KIND
Food should bring people together, not tear them apart. Think of the human on the other side of the screen, and don’t troll, harass, engage in bigotry, or otherwise make others uncomfortable with your words.
You should have easily been able to predict you would make people feel uncomfortable, writing "Ah yes, a corpse, how apetizing" on stuff clearly viewed and intended by the poster as food not gore.
You didn't say anything untrue, which was the problem. People don't want to challenge their cognitive dissonance and just want to share things they think look tasty on that sub. Society at large has agreed murder is fine if the victim is tasty, so other animals' corpses are exempt from most animal abuse rules.
Society at large has agreed murder is fine if the victim is tasty
Unless you're a fruitarian you, too, have agreed that murder is fine as long as the victim is different enough from you. If you are a fruitarian you're probably still fine with slavery and eugenics, given that most cultivated fruiting plants are farmed and selectively bred by humans.
Nature is an endless system of predation and consumption and humanity is not yet technically developed enough to transcend it. You physically cannot live without other living, sensing, feeling things dying.
Justify your choices however you need to. I'm not interested in debating you.
You're the one who has choices to justify. Me, I'm a full mask off evil unapologetic human supremacist.
