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why even have "Motto" if you are just going to renege on it.
In this case, having not having a motto would have made them able to get further down the enshittification path before anyone noticed. They just warned us.
I guess it's time to move to vaultwarden sooner rather than later.... This wasn't supposed to be the weekend project, but fuck it; let's roll with it!
The company has long defined its values with the acronym “GRIT,” which used to stand for “Gratitude, Responsibility, Inclusion, and Transparency.” After May 4, it changed the acronym to stand for “Gratitude, Responsibility, Innovation, and Trust.”
It's not as bad as the headline seems. Transparency is still in the motto. The actual change is:
But still. Why change it at all? Why replace "inclusion" with "innovation"?
It smells like Tech Bro.
There's just no way to spin that positively, even giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially since they aren't rolling it back. Someone spent effort to make that values change, so its not an accident nor a "nothingburger".
Well, trust is literally the oposite of transparency. So i would call it quite bad, especially if you consider that right now i trust these guys with my credit card details, my taxID, all my passwords.
Exactly. In cybersec, trust is someting you try to avoid or at least minimize. Trying to use it as a selling point is ridiculous.
That's a great point.
I don't want to trust them either. I don't want to have to.
The only "devil's advocate" argument I can think of is they're trying to appeal to enterprise clients (who would not know that and want to "trust" a security company). That would explain the "I" change: "inclusion" (sadly) sounds political, "innovation" is like corporate catnip. Bitwarden could be trying to attract big fish to fund development, having their cake an eating it.
Because the "inclusive" part is already described by the first letter's "story"?
Ah for fuck's sake. Seems like every month I have to change something because some fucking company starts getting a taste for greed via data sucking. I'm goddamn sick of it.
Enshitification
This is not great but the strength of vaultwarden on the back of the bitwarden brand will give us forked clients as soon as they stop allowing self-hosters to set their instance.
Get out now
Try keepass on self hosted sandstorm
Can keepass do passkeys?
I don't think so, but sandstorm can as of a few weeks ago (might not be in main branch yet)
I just went all in to bitwarden 🙃. Not ready to change again just yet but will be ready probably once it starts going to shit.
Well, it could be forked of course. The self-hosted version at least.
If things turn for the worse, hopefully Vaultwarden can fork the client as well
So does this affect vaultwarden at all?
It will as there is not an VW official OS client nor browser plugin. It is undoubtedly a fucked state of affairs.
Gr8. Yet another critical service soon to be gobbled up by PE. I guess I'm moving to Proton Pass.
Always happens eventually. You can run Vaultwarden yourself if you have a homelab you trust so passwords never disappears.
Fuck :(
Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.
We're sorry we got caught
Oversight
They got community checked and backtracked hard... I have always endorsed bitwarden but that is becoming worrisome. :(
Getting hard to endorse anyone you don't personally know at this point.
Yeah, you know those marketing team people. They totally went out of their way to make more work for themselves to change it with I'm sure zero instructions from higher up to do so.
Luckily BW is open source, and VaultWarden exists. If they enshitify, all it takes is a fork of the browser extensions and apps with a rebrand.
This right here is the only answer
Companies can try to steal the app but they can only steal the name
Exactly, IMO Vaultwarden should just fork the clients and extensions and officially take the lead. Bitwarden can just go the way of OpenOffice for all I care.
Well, it was fun while it lasted, lol.
I've long wondered when this was going to happen. Their investors must have been frustrated about the lack of revenue per user growth (eg, screwing us over with annual price hikes and removing features from free plan)
Experienced this with 1 Password. Experienced this with Enpass in another way. Really doesn't want to experience this with Bitwarden especially because of self-hosting. Let's hold thumbs but, apparently, it was fun while it lasted...
I knew trouble was brewing when they started adding the little corporate cute waving graphics and stuff to the UI. Glad I already migrated away
What are u using? I just got onto Bitwarden and set up all my credentials there!
Nothing good ever lasts. Guess that's entropy for you.
It's the investor obsession with forever growth. It ruins everything.
