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Coolcoolcool this will totally not be used for quishing

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago
[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd like an example of a site that does this. Name and shame. It might be the choice of the developer, too.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The support page both refer to seems to be real though? https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en

Does what it's saying mean that Google Play Services is required to pass their captchas on mobile?

Edit: Found a comment in the Reddit thread from someone claiming to have seen one of these captchas in the wild, which supposedly does do this check but is easily bypassed:

Got good news, I just had this captcha. As you can see in the image there is an audio and an eye icon at the bottom. We can protest against this captcha by clicking the eye and doing the original one. As long as a substantial amount of people keep doing that I assume it wont' go away.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would a mobile site give a QR code to prove you're human?

I think that would prove you're robot, if anything. I need my phone's camera to scan the QR code, but it's on the screen!

[–] Varcour@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

I got a QR code like that from google drive today. I was trying to create a new account and it presented me with a QR code to scan with my phone. I didn't try using it on my phone or wanted anything to do with it from my phone. But it wouldn't let me continue if I didn't scan their code

[–] absolutetupperware@lemmy.today 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

google and microsoft are creating a fault line in tech. one that was previously only drawn by Apple. now everyone will be forced to either assimilate or decentralize. which ironically is exactly what the internet needed, it's grown entirely too privatized in the past decade or so. i sincerely hope this results in more people thinking critically about their tech. and that the next billionaire with an "idea" doesn't just make everyone complacent again. but all i can do is hope.

[–] shirasho@feddit.online 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a line only few care about. Millions will blindly and gladly give their information over and happily play in the walled gardens. They see privacy focused people as old men yelling at clouds (pun intended).

that's how they are NOW, but pessimism doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[–] degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A website that pulls this crap is a website I will simply not use.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's all fine until you actually need the site. If it's your bank, payment portal for your new apartment, scheduling page for your doctor, etc. Not every site is optional.

[–] degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can visit your bank in person, send a check to pay for your apartment, call your doctor to schedule an appointment, etc. Not everything has to be done online.

[–] Hisse@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If a school's assignment submission software has it, it's not the same story.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

My kids' school district provides district-managed chromebooks. I stuck them on their own walled-off VLAN. Out of sight, out of mind. Any time my kids come to me with an issue on their chromebooks, I point them back to the school's IT guy. Trying to instill the "this thing belongs to the school, therefore any issues with it are the school's problem" mindset. I'm not rude about it, just very frank.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Get real. Nobody is enough of a masochist to do college homework on a de-googled android phone. (Sent from my Brax3)

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

That might be true where you live, good for you. Where I'm from, calling the doctor is still possible, but the other two examples are not an option or practically unfeasible. So many services are digital by default, some have options for communication by physical mail, but that comes with extra fees. Straight up avoiding websites if they use these new captchas introduces a disproportionate burden.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 24 points 1 day ago

I guess I won't be visiting those shitty websites then. fuck off, google.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this just bullshit? What if the visitor has an iPhone? Or a Huawei? I don't think a website is going to force Google on all visitors

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think iPhones already have Play Services with Chrome, but I could be wrong

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

iPhones have been doing this for a while. It's enabled by default but as far as we know is privacy preserving

[–] Hisse@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

As far as we know, about a proprietary software?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago

We can see what it gives to the website

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Seems poorly thought through. Some chump with Photoshop and a text editor could replicate this but change the QR code to a malware site in minutes.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bonenode@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But that will be running GrapheneOS and so has the same issue as in the screenshot.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS lets you install Google Play Services locked inside a sandbox inside a separate profile, which might work?

The whole system is designed around identifying you as an individual (and until now about making you as miserable as possible until you gave up), so I'm not sure how happy Google would be if you tried that.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 19 hours ago

Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But they won't be de-googled. I assume Google has some sort of Trojan software that remains permanently in the background that users can't see.

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though.

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then that’s cleared up :)

I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that.

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'm willing to bet a million dollars that Google had this shit locked and ready for quite some time.

Thanks Americans for bringing in this administration. Lina Khan was too horrible to head FTC I guess.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And users have to abandon all services that force a militarized google/microsoft into their ecosystem.

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

And I will. They'll lose me as customer.

[–] terroristtaco@lemmychan.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gives an opportunity for more privacy-respecting websites to meet the demand.

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Unfortunately I have banking apps and the such, but they work with normal browsers as well so I guess I can just do away with most Google things but it is a pain in the ass to deal with.

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, how will iOS deal with this?

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Apple already utilizes Google apps (like Chrome or Photos) to handle these things.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Google's documentation suggests it will just work on iOS devices. Maybe you'll need a separate app. Either way, this isn't very reassuring, because it requires you to finance a piece of hardware that's not really under your control (unless Graphene can actually put this crap on lockdown).

[–] immobile7801@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

And mcaptcha

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

A screenshot to a tweet. Totally reliable source.