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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I remember when people complained about sound coming from wind turbines. That was bad

This? Good

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago

There's a wind farm near my house and I suppose they do make sound although the only time I was ever able to hear it was during the height of the lockdowns because there's a massive highway between me and them and that's definitely louder. They definitely don't produce infrared sound though, but way too big and the blades move way too slowly.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It does matter if the complaints are real or fabricated, turns out. Research on that topic confirmed that wind turbines generate very little infrasound, further reduced by their great distance from the ground. The amounts in question are less than that generated by other ubiquitous machines, so it is very safe to conclude that those complaints are phony, advanced by enemies of alternative energy.

I can't speak to the validity of these complaints, but there are a lot more motors running a lot faster in a data center than in a wind power generator, so it is at least plausible. The research will demonstrate if this complaint is valid or just more activism.

[–] sup@sh.itjust.works 15 points 20 hours ago

Just looked up, a windturbine has less infrasound then cars. (german Source) I would guess the datacenter could have more infrasound and thus be a bigger problem. They mention a study about windturbine infrasound and they point towards nocebo effect, but maybe windturbines are at a border where the health effects are very difficult to measure. So maybe studies about the infrasound of datacenters could find something. On the other hand, datacenters bring a lot more pollution factors, like light-, air- and waterpollution.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I dislike hypocrisy as much as the next person. So I feel where you're coming from. At the same time, the wind turbines are generating power that everyone benefits from, whereas these things are consuming power for a product that very few people actually like or even want to exist. So I think its fair to say that maybe the noise is tolerable when you're getting something you actually want out of it. Also, wind farms are usually built further away from large population centers, whereas data centers are because it's cheaper to build them in areas with lots of people around. So the concern does seem a little more irrelevant to wind farming as a whole than data centers.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, what makes them cheaper to build in populated areas? Doesn’t that mean the land value is higher when purchasing/leasing the site?

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The article alludes to it: "The United States does not lack flat, open land away from population centers on which to build data centers. However, AI hyperscalers prefer to locate their campuses near existing infrastructure so they don’t have to spend massive amounts of time and resources building everything from scratch."

It costs a lotta money to run electricity and water to the middle of nowhere.

Also, companies are doing research to specifically build in areas where they believe the local community is not politically empowered to prevent it from being built. This guy goes into some more depth at this timestamp: https://youtu.be/1CpVmPh3BDE?t=831

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fascinating thank you. Brings me back to ArcMap training days. I wonder if they have some data layer for “local population acceptance factor”.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm sure they do. Probably using an AI model to calculate it tbh

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

"3.7 MWh of power annually" - With authors like this, it's no wonder some people find math and science confusing. I actually thought Toms Hardware was a quality site.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok technically it's energy not power, big deal. Sometimes electricity is colloquially called power.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

Toms used to be solid. I can't place my finger on it, but sometime around the 2010's everyone stopped using them as references and they slid somewhat into obscurity.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let's use science to determine what is happening.This can be measured. Use a blind study to evaluate the impact.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

aren't blind people more susceptible to auditory stimulus? wouldn't that skew the numbers?

/s

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Include that as a variable. It's done all the time.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

but how could they make sure since it's a blind study? maybe they're only pretending to be blind.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 25 points 1 day ago
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

Me when an AI data center is too close:

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (11 children)

even if the infrasound is debunked, the pollution, the power usage, cost would be much more annoying.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

sounds like crowd control weapon research

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Jfc sounds like opportuniatic capitalists cutting corners and not caring about the populace

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

There's a local council in my community that is gunning for an AI data center in my county. People are livid, but I don't think it's going to be enough to stop the construction. It's shady as fuck with hidden shareholders that nobody will reveal.

I'm open to any and all suggestions on how to prevent this data center from being built. Peaceful ideas or otherwise.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 day ago

When they come up with it on their own, and push it relentlessly despite obvious and enormous resistance from the citizens, you know they been paid off handsomely.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

they likely paid off the politicians before hand, remember janet mills in maine, she basically allowed one to be built and vetoed any measure to block it.

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[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 139 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

My first thought was that Benn Jordan did a great bit of video journalism on this, but it's already linked from the article, although without any other mention of it.

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