No, no. Worse than Obama's deal.
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The point was to remove epstein from the headlines and also to steal money with the war spending

Exactly right!
He hasn't actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.
Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.
It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.
It's almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they'll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors
At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don't try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.
No, it’s actually worse than Obama’s deal and yields a lot of concessions and leverage to Iran
Not to mention the fact that this gave Iran the perfect opportunity to test out their theory on whether or not they could control the strait of Hormuz. Until this year it had only been a crackpot idea in their military circles. Now it's official policy for that country.
So, thanks Trump.
Also
- less oil is traded in USA dollars,
- the USA national debt reached highs that just beg for a rating downgrade,
- quite a few NATO allies now see buying USA weapons as a liability,
- the stock market atm is just AI (I mean that as a big volatility factor at an inopportune moment),
- China publicly gave 0 fucks about USA's shenanigans & the USA was forced to ignore it,
- and public opinion is now finally switching against USA companies.
Maybe the USA will have a crisis the will be the perfect moment for a coup. By the existing rulers. So not under new management.
At this point, why would Iran give up any nuclear ambitions on a promise from the United States? Our promises are clearly not worth the ink they are written in.
Especially if Israel isn't held to disarm either.
What about the war crimes and the thousands of Iranians the U.S. is murdering? What about the more than a hundred schoolchildren who were torn to pieces by bombs during a direct U.S. attack on a school? Of course, those aren’t worth mentioning to this guy - only the U.S. "service members" and gas prices matter.
All too typical. This country makes me sick...
What about the Roughly 45 million more people could be pushed into acute hunger this year if conflict persists
The impact of this is so much more wide spread than just US Gas prices and the atrocities being committed by the USA and Israel.
It is, but unfortunately a vast majority of Americans don't seem to care unless it affects them directly (at the pump).
And 1/3 will believe any lie told to them.
Honestly having a hard time coping rn
The imperialism runs deep in the mainstream American worldview. They're raised on it from a young age.
He is not getting anything close to Obama's deal. Also we get to keep the high gas prices.
The end result is to suck more money out of the pockets of ordinary people, into the hoards of the wealthy. That is the point of it all.
It won't even be as good of a deal, just any deal. But the important part is that it will be Trump's deal. That's all he cares about. That his name is on it.
But more importantly, it doesn't have Obama's name on it.
That part is more important to other Republicans. To Trump it's all about the Trump.
Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.
Also it facilitated Israel's expansion.
And millions in poor nations are affected by high fuel prices directly (transport, cooking, medical facilities, agriculture, etc - in developed nations we just pay more for fuel, but the poor ones just can't afford that, that is the reason why gas prices haven't really exploded, they are "just a bit higher" bcs already at these level 20 or so % can't afford it & the market reaches equilibrium at lower quantify).
Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.
I would assume/hope that this is because they are targeting an audience that voted for Trump who don't care about the people America and it's allies kill.
And who told us all "dems bad cause they'll start wars and drive the price of petrol up and made America look bad on the world stage" etc
Somehow it always feels like an ad-campaign for nuclear weapons when countries with some attack countries without any.
Yeah, but at least we aren't talking about the Trump/Epstein files anymore.
Epstein who?
Funny how that suicide note just happens to surface right along with “operation Epst-ic fury is winding down”.
It't not even close to Obamas deal. So far it is just a big fuckup, as usual with Trump.
I'm still laughing that I was banned from a community for saying Harris wouldn't have invaded Iran.
But Trump managed to prevent Netanyahu from releasing what’s in the E files about him unredacted - for now anyway
To cause chaos, supplant the Epstein files with more "urgent" news; increase market volatility, kill children.... increase share price for defense contractors and profits for corporations that can use oil prices as a justification for ever higher prices.... the lie is that any of this has a point beyond itself or is in any way accidental.... even the partial release of the Epstein files was planned, cause if those child murdering fuckers in charge don't pull the curtain back every generation or so it stops being fun for them
Plus make billions with insider betting on polymarket and friends.
Oh, don't worry, it won't be anywhere near as good as Obama's deal.
And he'll call it a victory.
What's the point of it all?
He's obsessed with the delusion that only he can make deals. Only the best deals, the likes of which no one has seen before. Strong deals. 'Uge. Bigly deals.
I am reminded of the quote that "a clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower".
*worse. Worse than Obama's deal.
