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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We just figured the galaxy didn't have the budget for non humanoid intelligent life.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One head-type-thing and four limb-type-things, with only two being primarily locomotive, makes that more humanoid than not on an intergalactic body plan scale.

We are very bad at thinking up truly alien life.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I respect the constraints of production budgets. I don't expect TV aliens to look much different than people with some crap glued to their face.

Mass Effect at least branched out a little. But all of the squad mates were still basically humanoid. I expect they used mocap and similar limitations. Though it really could have benefitted from an Elcor squad mate.

"Irritated; you are a jackass... Captain. Irreverent; the cultists... Do not matter. Hopeful; bombard them from orbit and let's... Go."

I don't expect TV aliens to look much different than people with some crap glued to their face.

I mean.. I kinda do.. especially these days when CGI makes up more than half of your budget for nonsense reasons. Why don't they try harder? They could and it would cost them zero extra.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Hooloovoo resemble a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue. One was seen in a prism for Zaphod Beeblebrox's address upon stealing the Heart of Gold. On certain special occasions, such as the aforementioned Presidential event, they refract into a free-standing prism.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

his (assuming he?) existence can be compared to that of Carcinisation. some species just always evolve into crabs, some always evolve into amorphous tar blobs that embody evil.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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Right right only canon shows count

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For real though, there’s a reason you only see the Aquatics and the Insectoids in like two episodes of Enterprise.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and yaphit might have been a reason why orville ran out of budget and was not renewed 😆

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Orville was technically never cancelled. Seth also confirmed a few months ago that the script for the newest season is written, but it's hard to find time for all the actors at the moment.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Technically.... I am not sure it means much, since writing a script is a lot cheaper than turning it into finished series.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, this episode was in canon when All Good Things was written. Q goes through this whole speech about how the anomaly caused by Picard in the future stops life from forming on Earth, thus humans never exist. "You, in several million years." he says.

How does that interact with the "everyone is seeded from a common ancestor" plot?

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe it was the common ancestor that was directly stopped from existing and then by extension the other races

Or it's a plot hole

Well...how about this:

the race of Beforeians seeded inhabited worlds. So the entire biosphere happened on its own from cyanobacteria up to wooly mammoths and shit, and then the beforeians seed the planet with hominids.

If life didn't evolve on Earth, the Beforeians wouldn't have seeded it. Just like they didn't seed Mars or Venus.

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My dad when this aired: dang what a good and awesome story with a good and awesome message

Also my dad: Mexicans tho

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Ooo, swing and a miss.

So close.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

also why they can interbreed

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I kinda just forgot Spock, Torres, and Troy were half human

Life, uh, finds a way.

Fuck anything hard enough and it will breed

Klingon terraforming 101

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Star Trek Enterprise explains that it involves medical intervention to allow interbreeding between species. I've always assumed that's what was going on for everyone.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"We were too busy fighting"

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

There's a lesson here.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

Everybody was kung fu fighting

[–] teft@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Convergent evolution. Maybe bipedal locomotion gives some sort of advantage to intelligence.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It is kind of the minimalist form to let a brain interact with its environment, You have the second lowest number of locomotion limbs but significanly higher efficiency than slithering (0) which means more energy for the brain, And 2 manipulating limbs is the minnimum neccesary to grasp items in a way that allows you to apply torque or brace objects.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 15 points 2 days ago

Not intelligence, but tool-wielding.

Pigs and whales are smart, but neither can swing a hammer.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

If you're bipedal you have free arms to throw rocks and make tools.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yeah, this is a viable explanation, although it is dependant on life evolving mostly the same way across the galaxy. If life mostly evolves on ocean planets in the Goldilocks Zone frim the same basic elements, then sure, prokaryote, fish, tetrapod, biped could be an extremely common path. But it's entirely possible there are a wide variety of initial circumstances that can generate life, and there are tungsten-based hyper-intelligent shrimp people living in gas giants

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Exactly this. Bipedal, fingers for tool making.

Maybe humans are the crabs ~~crackheads~~ of spaceflight

[–] AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any mention of the word troglodytes gets an instant upvote from me. :)

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

It just flashes screenshots of Number Munchers into my brain

[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

It did come up again, it's just not many people made it to near the end of Discovery.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, why do you look like a changeling?

[–] user1234@fedinsfw.app 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In universe, maybe they were the first humanoid species the changelings encountered.

Realistically, they just didn't get that creative with character design.

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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I thought this was indeed brought up in the show. Am I wrong?

Ew. Wash that pan before you have guests

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

If she were not dead, I would kill her!

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

HA! I literally watched this episode last night!

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