Been boycotting Amazon since 2004.
Still waiting for everybody else to catch up.
Surely they'll see it soon...
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Been boycotting Amazon since 2004.
Still waiting for everybody else to catch up.
Surely they'll see it soon...
Just started my de-America'ing mostly by cutting the streaming, then I'll start to be more selective with food and drink.
Gonna be honest, people are still on the "pointing out the hypocrisy" stage and need to move on to: yes, that's the point, what are we going to do about it?
"Oh hur hur this makes no sense" Bezos is ecstatic that you just now realized.
Some are still praising bezosioids
Hear me out, but nobody should become homeless or starve bcz they don't have a job.
We always frame this in terms of "tHiNk oF aLl tHe jErBs" that will be lost, instead of, why the fuck are we letting these billionaires hoard all the wealth when we already live in a post scarcity society.
People should not be starving when there's plenty of food to go around.
He's my favorite example to bust the "smarts and hard work" myth of billionaires. He had parents with good, union jobs that allowed him to go to Princeton, where he dropped out of a physics major (into CS) because it was too difficult. The school's connections, though, got him a job at a hedge fund, where he was assigned to study the investment potential of e-commerce on the nascent Web. He saw the enormous potential, but was so bad at his job that he couldn't convince the other executives that they wanted some of that money. So he left the job, got a large loan from his parents, and started Cadabra in a garage he rented in a conscious nod to Silicon Valley mythos. Oh, Cadabra? He was going to call it that, but his lawyer convinced him to go with his second choice of name, because that one sounds too much like cadaver. The company was profitable in a month, and then he used all manner of dirty tricks to run the competition out of the market.
Nothing in his story indicates anything but dumb luck of randomly being the one in the right time and place to succeed. If it was smarts and hard work, there were hundreds of other e-commerce contenders who put in at least as much as he did.
It’s hard to overstate how much Amazon has changed the economy. It has quite possibly the longest and most consequential game of enshittification in play. It’s already taken over a giant chunk of the retail market and destroyed local businesses in ways Wal-Mart and their like could only dream of.
It’s brought worker exploitation to Gilded Age levels. And there’s no doubt the ultimate goal is to create a monopoly over retail, so that they will later dictate prices. They’re already redirecting popular products to their own cheap, shittier versions in the searches they control. Their long term goal, like all tech companies that touch real world commerce, is to “disrupt” the system that worked for everyone before them, aka what’s left of competition in late stage capitalism, and replace it with monopoly.
Bezos is a would-be feudalist lord of retail in a technofascist hellscape. Peter Thiel will handle the surveillance. And they’ll all ride out the apocalypse on wherever they relocated Epstein’s island.
"Unacceptable!"
... Except the malleable masses, addled on rage-bait, rightwing 'news' and bot-driven social media not only accept it but mindlessly endorse and defend it.
290B$ with poor investment performance yields 8%, which means he makes 23B$ a year for simply existing.
The kings of old wish
The fact that people can't stop using this shitty ass marketplace is proof we are doomed. Its NOT THAT FUCKING HARD to buy ANYWHERE ELSE . i have not used Walmart or amazon in over a decade. Never really used it before either because I knew their plan. Destroy all other businesses so there is nowhere to go, take over the entire market, then sell shit product for more while being the only employer left. Tale as old as time.
The stupidity of humans makes us deserve this honestly. Now pair this with people who won't get off their ass to vote. To fill in a bubble on paper. 100% doomed, dont even try to fix it.
It's saddens me that everyone has an excuse — even those who recognize the problem.
Look I'm not perfect either. I'm part of this shitty system. I fuck up and buy shit I don't need sometimes. But at least I'm trying.
If a box with a smile shows up on my door it's because I didn't know three seller used Amazon / their boxes.
Yeah exactly , but we are trying. The majority dont even try.
While I completely agree with you and I try not to use either company, lot of people who live in rural America do not have a choice. My parent well used to be parents before my dad died, does not drive and doesn't always have someone to get deliveries for her elsewhere. Even so The only place to shop in the area she lives is Walmart. There is no other place except for grocery stores. So where do you suggest those people shop other than Amazon and Walmart? Personally I live in a place where I can go to Costco and that's where I get most of my items but for things that are unable to be bought at Costco (for example a rare size screw but I need for a mechanical part) can sometimes only be bought at Amazon.
Yeah I get the specific use cases for it. Thats fine. They're not the issue. Its the clueless people using it when they dont need to at all
Thats great, but perfection is the enemy of good enough. I dont think one has to eliminate it entirely, there are some niche things that are only offeres through these marketplaces. But if there is an alternative place to acquire it (starting in your community), always favor it!
All it takes is a reduction of usage by everyone to send a message. Expecting people to go cold turkey is a bridge too far right now. Kudos though for being able to do that
In most places in rural America Walmart is the only place to shop at other than a grocery store. And sometimes they don't even have a separate grocery store. People in large metropolitan areas seem to forget there's a whole lot of America that's rural and nothing else is available there.
Look, I get it. Jeff Bezos will keep hoarding. That makes sense in that selfish, nihilist worldview. What I can't understand, is why all fucking people are voting against their own fucking self interests to allow this bullshit. If people didn't just vote against their fucking better interests we would be in a much better situation.
What are you doing to ensure nobody can be a billionaire?
Any recommendations?

It starts at home. Step one is to stop participating. Reduce or eliminate spend and/or engagment with the things that are enriching these people. Doesnt have to be perfect. Cancel your prime membership. Prioritize purchases at the businesses in your community. Only buy from Amazon when you have no other choice. Get rid of facebook. Etc etc.
The fact of the matter is that the way the world is structured right now, its impossible to be 100% perfect about this. You dont have to be perfect, just do the best you can.
If everyone did this (they wont), it would affect the stock price, and that is where billionares derive their power. Even a small downward trend is enough. But your life will change in a positive way if you do this as an added bonus. In some ways life has become tooo conveniant.
I can't cancel prime due to elderly parents who live in a rural area and don't drive. BUT there are like six or seven of us on the Amazon account sharing one account. As long as you trust the people not to use your credit card maliciously you can do that or you just delete your card every time you make a purchase. And we don't all live in the same household either
Just do your best, friend
I'm trying
I believe you. You've got this
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.