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From Parklane Landscapes

Shifting Baseline Syndrome (SBS) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it "normal," simply because it's all they've ever known.

Think about walking through a park and thinking, "This seems healthy." But maybe 30 years ago that same park had twice as many birds, wildflowers, or insects. If you never saw that version, you don't feel the loss - and that quiet forgetting becomes the new baseline. Over time, we start accepting degraded ecosystems as normal.

Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what's left.

What helps:

Intergenerational conversations that reconnect us with what nature used to be.

Direct experiences with nature that sharpen our awareness of change.

Remembering (knowing) the past is the first step to restoring the future.

Not a sponsor, I don't think it's an AI graphic, and I think it has something important to say. Plus it does have an owl. We can't save our animals if we don't save them the spaces they need to thrive.

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[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 24 seconds ago)

Things were much better back in my day. Everything went to hell around the Triassic. You kids wouldn't know, with your phones and your tablets and opposable thumbs.

EDIT: That was a good read btw

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

I feel as guilty as the next human for things out of my hands, but even I won't take blame for what happened before an apocalyptic meteor strike! 😜

Neat article though! I love the Devonian.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Why is there a Benjamin Button tree though?

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

The trees are something we talk about with some frequency here.

I'll probably be making a longer reply in the other new comment about how we have more trees today than x years ago, but all trees are not equal.

We can see the young tree replacing the conifer on the right is too young to support any life.

The left tree used to be large enough to support the owl. After that was cleared, a new tree was planted, but never grew old enough to again support a large cavity nesting bird. The replacement tree was left to grow long enough to support a few different species, but then was again replaced with a younger tree that is now just barely useful to animals.

Old trees have had time to get to the size and state of weathering where they can support many different types of life, from mosses, to insects, to birds that eat those insects, to the large birds of prey that roost in cavities or snags where the top of the tree breaks off and provides nesting for the largest of birds. When we remove "dead" trees, we remove a crucial piece of a wooded ecosystem. While the tree is dead, it can be supporting hundreds of other types of life.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

It has all the same branches. That tree is aging backwards.

[–] katkit@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (1 children)

German environmentalist Robinga Schnögelrögel recently talked about the shifting baseline syndrom, and he gave an example of how bad it is. He read a primary source from 1858 that talked about the biodiversity back then: Butterflys were described as "everywhere", hundreds on every meadow. A type of mayfly (ephoron virgo) hatched in rivers and congregated above, making it look like a snow flurry. The next day their dead bodies would cover the river banks, which farmers picked up by the wheelbarrow to use as fertilizer and feed to their pigs. Hence ephoron virgo's German name "Uferaas", meaning shore carrion.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

The amount more insects and such I can recall from being a kid in the 80s compared to now is staggering, so I can only imagine what it was like 100+ years ago, especially pre-Industrial Revolution.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago

When was the last time anyone saw a firefly/lighting bug in the summer? I miss them.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

One of the reasons is the trend of a boring, uniform yard. I remember growing up we had honey suckles, various plants and such in the yard, some were not pleasant to step on but had bio diversity. With the drive of a "perfect" lawn and the use of so many chemicals including pesticides and removal of native flora as well as trees, this has decreased bio-diversity. I hate lawns, I'd rather have natural grasses and shrubs and such.

Then people tell me "well you have to tend to those and it's a lot of work." No you don't, you tend to them because you're keeping up with the neighbors. Let them grow, water them when conditions require, clean up leaves in autumn. There's no need to modify plants for aesthetics, that's not what I'm interested in.

[–] Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 35 minutes ago

I like to ask people i meet IRL if they have a lawn. Follow up question is why then?

A lot of people seem to be unaware of the history and origin of lawns. Put oversimply, they are and have always been about gross excess resources expenditure to show those around you how rich you are.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

No do not clean up your leaves. Baby bugs use the leaves to keep warm in the winter. Cleaning up the leaves is reducing the population of helpful bugs.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Or, leave the leaves, and have beautiful lightning bugs in the summer

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Are leaves good to leave for the health of the ecology? If so, for certain!

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

They're great! Plrnty of bugs like moths and butterflies nest in ground coverage so leaves are super important. Thats why you shouldnt mow or move them

Good to know, thank you!

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Insects and other invertabrates use them as a snow/wind barrier to keep themselves an/or their eggs and larvae safe through the winter. It should be a near endless resource for them, but if we remove them, we take their shelter and babies away.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Native plants should also be less upkeep by virtue of being native. They have developed to thrive in that environment. They've developed resistance to local bugs, and the local rainfall and temperature cycle.

I've met some people that say they enjoy yardwork, but that sure isn't me! I'd rather see cool spiders, dragonflies, bees, and butterflies. And with local wildflowers, it's something unique to where you live, I'd think people would enjoy that.

Grass is just another chore to me.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

Only thing I don't enjoy is ticks. I trim and spray cause of those suckers.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm confused as to how that tree on the left kept getting younger over time?

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Just replied this to a similar comment:

We can see the young tree replacing the conifer on the right is too young to support any life.

The left tree used to be large enough to support the owl. After that was cleared, a new tree was planted, but never grew old enough to again support a large cavity nesting bird. The replacement tree was left to grow long enough to support a few different species, but then was again replaced with a younger tree that is now just barely useful to animals.

Old trees have had time to get to the size and state of weathering where they can support many different types of life, from mosses, to insects, to birds that eat those insects, to the large birds of prey that roost in cavities or snags where the top of the tree breaks off and provides nesting for the largest of birds. When we remove “dead” trees, we remove a crucial piece of a wooded ecosystem. While the tree is dead, it can be supporting hundreds of other types of life.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

In the US there are more trees now than in 1950. We basically clearcut the country except some in the Pacific Northwest during the 1800's - early 1900's westward expansion. More plastic as well though.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

There are some caveats to consider here. When is a tree not a tree? When it's not the right tree.

Old growth diverse forest is not the same as a monoculture tree farm. Let's look at both sides of this claim.

From NELMA%20of%20forest%20products.) (Northeastern Lumber Manufacturers Assoc)

Let’s back up for a minute. Prior to the arrival of European-Americans, about half of what is now known as the continental United States consisted of forest. From about 1620 to the dawn of the 20th century, millions of acres of forests were cleared to cultivate land and build structures. But initiatives to preserve forests, including reverting abandoned farm lands and developing sustainable forestry standards, have made a big impact.

We now have roughly two-thirds the amount of trees we had in the year 1600, and most of those gains have been concentrated along the Eastern coast, where the majority of the losses occurred in the first place. In fact, average wood-per-acre volumes have almost doubled since the 1950s. The United States has more trees today than we had 100 years ago (and a global study even found that the number of trees on Earth is around 3.04 trillion, a much higher number than previously believed.)

The United States is the world’s largest consumer (and second largest producer, after Canada) of forest products. While wood was once harvested mostly from federal lands, a shift to private lands has helped preserve vast areas of forest for public benefit while also encouraging landowners to keep forests intact. Responsible logging practices ensure that forests managed for the production of wood products contribute to healthy ecosystems while maintaining a steady supply.

So we have acknowledgment we've cleared a tooooon of our trees. The eastern US does have a bunch of trees today though, but as stated, these are new trees. Biodiversity is not specified here, so we'll ignore that right now. They also state demand for timber and wood products is higher than ever. But we're close to replacing what we take. One tree in exchange for one tree, so we're cool, right?

From The World Economic Forum

Scientists at the University of Maryland analysed satellite pictures showing how the use of land on Planet Earth has altered over a 35-year period. The study, published in Nature journal, is the largest of its kind ever conducted.

The research suggests an area covering 2.24 million square kilometers - roughly the combined land surface of Texas and Alaska, two sizeable US states - has been added to global tree cover since 1982. This equates to 7% of the Earth’s surface covered by new trees.

But what may sound like good news for the planet actually represents mixed news for the environment.

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However, an important distinction needs to be made between tree cover and forest cover.

The study points out that industrial timber plantations, mature oil palm estates and other specifically planted forests add to global tree cover. On paper these areas compensate for the primary forest that has been cut down; 100-hectare loss of primary forest is perfectly offset by a 100-hectare gain on a man-made plantation, for example.

But while they may be equal in area, they are not equal in biodiversity. Primary tropical forests and savannas harbour a wealth of flora and fauna which is lost when these areas are cleared.

And man-made forests do not compensate for the damage and degradation done to ecosystems through land clearance.

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So while trees are being replaced, there is damage to more of the environment than just to the trees. Every plant or animal that needed those trees to survive many no longer be able to return.

The trees may not be of the same species that was removed. They may be trees not native to that area and not suited to support local wildlife. They may not even have been replanted on the same continent.

Young trees cant support cavity nesters like owls, and dont harbor the insect life without cracked and weathered bark, and birds like woodpeckers that would eat those insects are out of luck.

Even a planted biodiverse forest takes 100-200 years to become old growth forest. And replacing a rainforest or old growth forest with pine trees grown specifically to quickly harvest new timber is nowhere near an equivalent exchange.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 56 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

One of the issues with this is that the previous generation that knows this best in my country is currently the least interested in talking about climate change. My parents grew up in a noticably different climate but they don't want to hear or say anything about this because to them confronting climate change means giving up convenience and if there's one thing boomers hate it's giving up convenience.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 1 points 8 minutes ago

if there's one thing boomers hate it's giving up convenience

And admitting they were wrong!

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 35 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm only 40 years old and I remember how different it was. If you went on a weekend trip your car would be splattered with insects all over. Our garden used to be full of butterflies and other insects. I've been stung so many times but for my kids it's a really rare occasion.

Not to mention the weeks of snow instead of the scattered few days we have now. And hardly anybody seems to care.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

You’re right- I needed the squeegee every time I got gas to clean the bugs off my windshield. Now I think I use it once per year

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm around the same age and notice the same things. I miss the fireflies and butterflies so much. Even the unloved bugs are gone. In summer the car always was plastered with dead bugs, and now that doesn't happen. A lot of notice things are gone, but even more unnoticed things are.

I feel that even though the collective "we" caused this, we as individuals have very little say on a lot of this. I can't get Coke to stop using plastic, I can't get Nestle to stop stealing groundwater, etc, and with decades of elected leaders letting us down, it's hard to come up with a plan of action. Individual actions like adding native plants back into your yard (that's what the company that shared this graphic does, which was why I was ok with sharing a business post), providing artificial animal nests and shelters, and just minding your own consumerism feels like a drop in the ocean, but I believe thousands or millions of us doing those tiny things is sadly going to be more effective in the near term than waiting for people in power to do the right thing. But it's often times hard to convince regular people of that.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

It is dejecting to realize what a small drop we are. However, I feel like all I can do is make my contribution and push aside thinking about whether I matter.

My yard was mostly invasive species when I moved into my place, and now I’ve gotten it to about 75% native species and the other 25% are not strictly native to me but I kept them because they appeared to be “bee’s choice” (rhododendrons for example). On any day in the summer I can find butterflies and bees in my yard, and I often sprinkle the seeds into the local park in the hope that the peripheries might grow wild with asters and goldenrod instead of buckthorn and dog strangling vine. Actually, I’d say the guerilla gardening has been a lot of fun - I’ve got some native black cherries in the local park that are establishing nicely and some native roses as well!

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The plastic bag really ties it together, and strangles you.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I feel even that fits, as it's one bag today, but if no one feels the need to pick up a bag that isn't theirs, maybe tomorrow 2 bags is normal...

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh it fits. You see them everywhere. Up in tree's at random.

[–] Pirky@piefed.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think one of the easiest ways to "reset" your baseline is to visit old growth/native forests. Those are some of the few untouched areas left and shows you what the land used to be like before we depleted everything.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

That's getting harder and harder to do for a lot of people. 🥺

It's one of the reason I try to represent a lot of more rare and exotic owls here. A lot of stuff we will never have the opportunity to see, especially in person, so I want to at least make people see what needs protecting. I think that's why well-run zoos and animal education centers are so important. It's near impossible to get people to care about things that they don't know even exist.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I saw a post recently about how butterflies are always drawn like that, wings spread all the way out. That's only for dead/preserved specimens, in nature their wings are much more overlapped and I can't stop thinking about it

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 31 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Most animals are drawn in a way that the viewer can identify them.

It's not a realistic image.

[–] leagman1@feddit.org 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

See stick figures. Most people just never go beyond that in their drawing skills.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

As long as a picture conveys its intended message, I call it a success!

[–] kernelle@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Wouldn't change anything!

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting observation. Often one of the best times to spot and identify butterflies is really in the morning before they've warmed up and are basking in the sun with their wings wide open. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to draw butterflies as they're most easily seen.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It has to do when they are for collectors they pull the wings up over the head, where naturally the wings dont usually extend above the head

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh! Gotcha. That context makes more sense, thanks

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I didn't explain that very well

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[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, the delights of living on TERF island. I know what you mean, but the images aren't viewable for me.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Catbox didn't seem to work but switched to imgur for a ninja edit. Maybe imgbb!

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[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Having spent so much time looking at owls now, probably 90% of owl drawings I see have the feet drawn in really silly ways. They're not always impossible ways for them to have their toes, but how they actually need to use them to hunt or to distribute their body weight is just not often depicted correctly. I think it's because most depictions fail to capture the correct ratio of foot:body and it doesn't look right (because it isn't), so they stick the outer toes in places they don't belong to fill that space.

The butterfly is probably the same way. We've seen that incorrect image displayed so much that the falsehood has replaced the truth for many of us. Even after we're shown it's incorrect, we often can have trouble reconciling it with years of having it ingrained the other way.

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