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I watched the series of the early 2000s and 2010s and compared them with the series closer to the 2020s and directly felt the difference, as if the authors really tried something before, I really cried when watching or was happy for the characters. The same with games, I played several games from the 2000s, and one sank into my heart, even after playing it a few years later, its plot still evokes vivid and pleasant memories, which has not yet happened with any game from the 2010s and even more so from the 2020s.

I'm not the only one, am I?

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Part of it is that there's aqlways low quality and high quality content being made, but time acts as a filter. The stuff you'll still be able to find to watch from the past is more likely to be the higher quality things from that previous era.

I personally think there is still a slight difference in quality as well, but it's easy to forget all the shit TV that doesn't make it into history books or to any online services.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This happens with music all the time. People ignore all the shit that didn’t chart and pretend like everything from [insert time period here] was just the top of quality stuff we remember

[–] Boh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hollywood is legit dying. COVID+strikes+inflation+higher interest rates+LA fires have pretty much decimated the industry. There is cost cutting across the board. No one wants to take risks.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

it's way cheaper to film outside of LA due to the crazy taxation they have there about productions.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not really, no. But I am noticing a lack of quality in, like, everything else. I swear to God, every time I turn around lately, something is poorly designed, or produced, be it some web service, or the fuckin ice trays I bought that shattered the first time I tried twisting the ice out.

On the other hand, we're currently in a very good period of music, which I assume is "content".

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh man. I swear before the last few years every roll of paper towles tore reliably. Like yeah maybe once or a few times a year it would not but more often than not I was holding it wierd. Lately we have been getting these paper towels where the perforation just does not work and you can barely see it. Like you have to hold it to a bright light to make it out. Both my wife and I and its not us just tearing at a wrong angle. Its like how is such a long standing well known process like making these things getting enshitified???

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

paper towels i buy have no issues.

sounds like you are buying the cheapo ones.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

bounty. never had an issue until something like 6 months ago (looking at the date closer to 10) and since it started we see it every few rolls.

Have you played Disco Elysium?

[–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Stories put together by larger studios are made to suck every penny out of it they can. They make formulaic stories, distilled down to an average denominator of the population. Predictable, mediocre, and bland have become the norm, in order to mass market one thing after another. We are being inundated with heartless, soulless content.

Look for more indie or low budget things. Those are put together by people who want to do it. By people who want to tell their story, show their art, and make something great. Great stories are still being told, you just have to find them.

*Edit: spelling

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeh the mass market thing really does spoil a lot. I have noticed an uptick of movies lately that are and should be serious, however they seem to squeeze in silly jokes and or goofy music. Why? i am assuming to hit an extra market but it just ruins credibility in my eyes and the movie ends up with an identity problem.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conversely there is no more stupid, fun comedy movies coming out anymore. Think Will Ferrell or Adam Sandler movies, that kind of thing. The 90s / early 2000s was the golden age of dumb comedies, and now it seems that those sorts of movies are rarely ever produced anymore

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

R rated comedy doesn't make any money, that's why.

the main audience that goes to movies is kids and families.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand the reasoning behind it but its still a loss for popular culture, imo

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

eh, i have shown those move to my nephews, they think they are stupid and gross. they don't laugh, they just make cringe faces and ask me why anyone would like this awful movie.

that kind of humor is not popular anymore and they couldn't be made today because they are so racist, sexist, and depend so much on making fun of being gay.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Well, I think it really depends on the movie. Some don’t have the flaws you mentioned

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not just since then, that's just when you noticed it.

It's the pursuit of mass appeal, as studios consolidate there's less competition for different demographics or preferences. Everything aims for a global phenoma that could kick off decades long franchises.

So we end up with "safe". If any significant demographic wouldn't like something, it's cut. If any significant demo needs something to draw their views, it's added.

So we get an occasional show that feels ok.

But it'll never ever hit as hard as something that was dialed into your specific demo like what used to be the norm. No one wants to make the best "sci fi" or "vampire" show, they want to make the best "show" period. Something that everyone will watch and no one will hate.

It can easily be fixed by breaking out the corporations so they have to compete and don't have the resources to go for global blockbusters like Star Wars or Harry Potter.

People would just make the best movie/show they could to tell the story they wanted. And hope enough people identify with it to make something else next.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As the barrier to entry has lowered with easier tools the quality naturally falls.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and the average consumer just wants to scratch an itch.

they are not discerning.

great content exists in abundance, but you have to know how to find it. it's not going to be spoonfed to you via the algorithm.

[–] PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It feels like there has been some dropoff, particularly in higher-budget areas. Big studios seem to be taking fewer risks, and small creators have less money (and time by extention) to spend on art.

That said, it also feels like discoverability has gotten far worse. Social media has become increasingly insular, more personalized, more algorighmic, and ultimately harder to explore. Its not like the old days, where you could find a new thing, even from a random person's forum signature.

@BetaSoldier It's probably gonna be a bit of both. If you grew up in the 00s/10s, then you would've been watching a lot of that stuff during a more influential point in your life, and one where you have far less to compare it to, so it feels a lot better. Plus when rewatching unless there's some stuff that really doesn't hold up you'll be leaning on the nostalgia a lot.

I've run into a lot of stuff from the past 6 years that's hit me like a truck, a lot of it in the indie space.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one is spending any money on making stuff. The local theater has like 12 screens, and half are playing movies like caddy shack. There's just not the willingness from the studios. They won't risk losing money, theyll take the small consistent profits of existing ip and minimal production cost.

Indie games are still good. There are some YouTube channels that produce quality exclusive content on other platforms. But for sure the good stuff is harder to find, and there aren't blockbusters like the 80s and 90s.

[–] zout@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

But are there B-movies like in the 80s? I remember renting tapes of movies that I would have trouble finding today.

[–] Elilol@fedinsfw.app 2 points 1 day ago

They dont take enough time to make GREAT games or series because they want to keep chugging out more and more instead of better.

The other day I was reading a news that said that streamings are losing eyes to fucking youtube... Imagine is Indies are making better stuff that the biggest companies.

Sad days indeed.

[–] LustLive@fedinsfw.app 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It started slowly around 1980s. Everything, education, news, research, tv series, food, clothing, fashion, manners..... Also, compare growth of wealth of global top 1 percent since 1980s. There seems a spurious correlation.

Now the descent of quality and ascent of wealth concentration has speeded up. I don't know, I m just a goon.

[–] Pyrixas@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

I don't know, sounds like all of that is subjective to me.

If this was applied to YouTube, then yes, quite noticeable.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It’s also perception and nostalgia.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not with TV, no. There is plenty of high quality TV in the late 2010s and 2020s.

[–] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Somewhere in there, TV and movies switched. Movies used to be good, now they're trash for the most part. TV used to be trash with the occasional gem, now there are many good TV shows. I heard a lot of writers got fed up with movies and switched to TV.

[–] BetaSoldier@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, this does not happen in all industries, in some the effect is a little opposite. But what about the uniqueness or depth of the plot, did they average out?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

As time marches on, it only gets harder to make a unique plot, does it not?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You should have seen the degradation of content when the eternal September started back in my days...

[–] soar160@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I will say I used to get quite emotional more often playing good story driven games compared to now. Whether that's because of the inferred change, or I've become more cynical and dead inside....who knows (I suspect the latter).

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

yeah I talk about it all the time and see other people talking about it. The last thing I was blown away with was I think american gods season 1 and boy did season 2 disapoint.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago

degradation according to you.

to the average non tech person, this is the internet they want. they like crap content.