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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Apparently, you can't downvote if you have no comments/posts in your account (lemmy.today)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Lirton@lemmy.today to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Not my account, but want to advocate for it. Because of, personally, I find it hilarious.

So, it seems like a mod with username MysticMushroom1776 @lemmy.dbzer0.com has some interesting policies about interacting with their content.

I agree that this user called PyroRondo has no content for 5 months straight. This is unusual but totally isn't against any rules of Lemmy.

As I suspect, they reacted to a few posts of MysticMushroom1776 @lemmy.dbzer0.com during random session of content scrolling. No brigading or any other types of harassment. I even suspect that these reactions were in communities connected to mod's AI art, not political ones.

And this for some reason triggered a ban in all comunities. Not in 1 or 2. Moreover, it seems like this mod uses specialized tools, that allow to track downvotes on their content made by other users with ability to get their usernames. I may be wrong, but I don't think that such tools are basic for moderators on Lemmy.

Edit: typo.

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[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Looks like this account and their main got what they deserved. I don't know why anyone would lie about something so easy to prove or disprove. Mods can see votes, so can admins. They're also easily viewable on Lemvotes.org.

This isn't organic voting, anyone can see that.

[–] Hadley@piefed.social 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

this looks similar to maddddddddddddddddd@sh.itjust.works, and oji@lemmy.world is the more organic kind you can see when finding someone oji hates you see theres mass downvote within short interval time

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

But Hexbear said you deserved because it is harmless content in a self contained space, on an instance that's comfortable with it.

Muh left unity thoooo

I'm sorry you're stuck dealing with such disgusting people constantly.

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They can't even see my posts or communities anymore. What are they complaining about? Hexbears really are the worst people. I don't understand why they're still federated with us when they hate us so much.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Fuck if I know, genuinely think it's so they can just invade communities and go "well it was on our front page, it's not an attack when we do it."

[–] FleetwoodLinux@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't exactly love those comments, but I gotta say it's uhh 2 maybe 3 hexbears that made comments and your reaction is that everyone there sucks? Idk, maybe I'm missing something here

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

It's a recurring issue with them and us. This isn't the first time they've started a fight and justified it.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Account made to downvote/stalk a community, they deserved it.

And fuck the Hexbear users defending the banned account because they hate the content. Fucking jackasses.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. This happened to my communities, and STILL happens when I create a community. When I create a new one, I have to immediately pre-ban like 12 usernames that just downvote my posts, regardless of content immediately after I post.

Sure, I guess they are allowed to do that. But I'm also allowed to ban them for it. :)

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 9 hours ago

if you want to make your comms on AN, we can set it up so that nobody can downvote posts except AN members or users of trusted instances (all our trusted instances require application to register). this virtually eliminates downvote harassment.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah it's disappointing. See my comment below. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/67799335/25742930

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 26 points 17 hours ago

So in general, I agree that moderators who ban people for downvoting are absolutely PTB, and are basically engaging in vote manipulation themselves through their actions.

In this case however, we're looking at an account that has upvoted 1 post and downvoted 49 (With no comment interaction whatsoever) in the span of 3 minutes. This is a pretty clear downvoting account.

This is with you being banned from the same communities 3 days ago, which I understand is great motivation to look at the moderation practices, but the fact that you're posting about another users bans, rather than your own is suspicious with regards to the accusations in this thread of it being your sockpuppet.

If you want to discuss your bans by this mod, I would be interested in the conversation. But this user deserves the ban.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yeah unless there's an actual attack where a bunch of throwaway accounts mass-downvote certain posts, banning a single individual for daring to downvote is wild

It's also my first time seeing that vote-viewing website and it's honestly a bit insane that this quirk is part of Lemmy design ngl

[–] xep@discuss.online 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Federated voting means both up and downvotes have to be shared.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yes but it doesn't have to share usernames to anything but the originating server for the vote and host server for the content. All others only need the sum.

This does still mean instance admins can do broad bans. There's other privacy techniques if that matters like cryptographic blind signatures for voting, etc, where you can know each user only cast one vote (and can see totals per originating server) without revealing the specific users.

In theory you could also make this ban compliant (such that you can't vote if you're banned, but if you're not and cast a vote you still can't be identified).

If you do extra fancy stuff like transparency logs with anonymous credentials and secure multiparty computation (MPC) you could do it while still allowing abuse detection. Although for now that's very complicated and compute heavy 🤷

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

If the receiving instance cant view who votes, you open it up to extreme vote manipulation.

It's trivial to start your own instance, and one could fork any code to counteract bans on their end or mass send votes without a set user behind them.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

instance admins could reject votes from abusive instances and you could let mods see totals per instance

There's other possibilities like using private set intersection and more to detect possible abusive patterns without sending raw data over between instances

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you actually understand how to implement all that maybe you should go contribute to PieFed.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Piefed already tried exactly that and had to revert because it's indistinguishable from vote manipulation

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

People just need to accept that on platforms where votes determine ranking, or worse, user reputation scores. Vote manipulation will be a real problem, and it needs to be managed or people are allowed to suppress and destroy smaller communities with alts if they so choose.

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

it's a sockpuppet account used to mass downvote. likely ran by the person who just created OPs account. literally the only thing the account has done is downvote all but a single post.

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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Actually yeah that might be it, https://lemvotes.org/user/PyroRondo@lemmy.world shows that they essentially just mass downvoted every post of Mystic Mushroom in like a span of a minute.

Nevermind then

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, this happens probably once a week to Mystic. @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com can we get some mod action on this account, it's def a sockpuppet.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago

If this account doesn't look like a downvote troll account then wtf does?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's also my first time seeing that vote-viewing website and it's honestly a bit insane that this quirk is part of Lemmy design ngl

It's kind of in the nature of the fediverse.

For the most part though it just proves that you don't know why people upvote or downvote something until they post. Otherwise it just reveals chronic haters.

Like, I got a couple haters that downvote my post history periodically. I know it's just primarily just a proud german nationalist and an australian racist that can't stand to see my username.

But I do see that people use vote lookups to provoke fights and, well, pursue people for their votes, which is kind of silly.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago

an australian racist

ikt?

[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 23 hours ago

I don't quite see why up+downvotes wouldn't be public. Everything you post is public, up/downvotes can be used by bots (and posts are actually heavily influenced by them on reddit), so it makes sense that you can see who down/upvoted what.

Of course it's an additional tool for people to abuse, but if they're the type of people who do that, then they're going to find some way to abuse something anyway.

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

an account only used to downvote, being championed by a new account with no history. did your sockpuppet getting banned bother you that much?

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago

Gotta love how Hexbear is okay with harassing our community when they support the cause.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 36 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Moreover, it seems like this mod uses specialized tools, that allow to track downvotes on their content made by other users with ability to get their usernames. I may be wrong, but I don’t think that such tools are basic for moderators on Lemmy.

That information is readily available. For example: https://lemvotes.org/

[–] homes@piefed.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are that obsessed with individual votes on a comment or a post, you’re spending far too much time here

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Has noone told the mods of the 90/9/1 rule of the Internet? 90% lurkers, 9% commenters, and then the rare 1% that actually post stuff.

[–] KernelPanic@anarchist.nexus 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

An account that performs no activity other than issuing fifty downvotes within a single minute is highly unlikely to be operated by a human, much less a typical user. This pattern is strongly indicative of an automated sockpuppet account, which explains why the dbzer0 administrators chose to ban it once the behavior was brought to their attention.

Appreciation to @lirton@lemmy.today for highlighting the issue and enabling appropriate action to be taken.

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