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Are the conflicts in Israel-Palestine & Iran related? Or are they two separate things? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) by JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca

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hi I'm kinda ignorant when it comes to current events related to politics, can you please tell me if the Israel Palestine conflict has any relation to the Iran thing or are they two separate things happening right now?

I saw this car with this message on his window and it occurred to me I have no idea what's going on in the world. I just hear things in the news and hardly comprehend them and ignore them. My definition of ignorant is IGNORing things I don't understand.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Iran has backed Hezbollah and Hamas by providing weapons and funds, and after the October 7 attacks by Hamas, fired some ballistic missiles at Israel.

So in that sense, yes, they're linked.

However, that's also not the only factor involved

that is, this isn't just "Israel and Palestine fight, ergo Iran conflict". Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons, which is an issue for the US. There's been historic conflict between Iran and the US on a number of different issues, from the Shah to Iran involving itself in the US conflict in Iraq, providing weapons to the Houthis, etc.

EDIT:

Here: Wikipedia: Iran-United States relations

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Except the IAEA has repeatedly said that Iran has no nuclear weapons and doesn't appear to be trying to make them. But Israel and the US obviously don't care. Iran being on the verge of having nuclear weapons has been a recurring boogeyman that they keep pushing as a reason to invade and threaten. There's a lot wrong with Iran and its leadership, but nuclear weapons is unlikely to be a real issue.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a regional issue that’s been going on for thousands of years, with many sub-events.

Essentially, Israel has been stealing land from Palestine since it was first created as a nation. Separate from that, relations between Israel and Gaza, which is a Palestinian territory inside Israel, have been tense, and blew up when Hamas, which effectively governed Gaza, broke through the barricade keeping them hemmed in and killed/kidnapped a bunch of people in Israel proper.

Israel responded by flattening most of Gaza, and attacking people in many other parts of Palestine and taking more land.

Hamas is mostly backed/funded by the Iranian government.

Israel also attacked Syria and sent some settlers over the Syrian border, and attacked Lebanon, targeting Hezbolah-controlled border states; Hezbolah is also Iranian government-backed.

Israel then attacked Iran, and convinced the US to join them.

It’s worth noting that the current Israeli government is hard-right expansionist nationalist, and has been waiting for an excuse to do these things for a while now.

[–] FireXtol@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Stealing?

That's a funny way to describe legal possession.

Early Zionists bought their land, legally. Regardless of the law of the Ottoman empire or British law or whateve ... There are legal deeds recognized internationally. You can't steal land from people that never owned the land.

Palestinians were often tenant farmers (farming on somebody else's land). And sure, the new owners of the land told them to kick rocks. That naturally upset them into some intifidas.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Isreal and the US attacked iran together.