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[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Kier Starmer is an authoritarian twat who is setting up some scary surveillance shit to hand to, sadly, Reform. Who will be much worse.

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

This shit is unacceptable and needs to be banned the same as the EU.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago

Eh, at this point I had "cyberpunk dystopia" on my bingo card.

We're about 60% there in the UK.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 77 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Minister says 'law abiding citizens have nothing to fear'

Fuck that asshole.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

She should be probed for every crime imaginable

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 63 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I am once again condemning the UK for building a surveillance state beyond what Orwell could truly envision.

[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah things are really looking bleak over there. That plus their recent attacks on free speech (you can get arrested for supporting "Palestinian action") paint a very dystopian picture for the future of the UK

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Did you ever bother to look into why Palestine Action was singled out? How one of their members assaulted someone with a hammer or something?

You can support Palestine without supporting that group, lol.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

one of their members

Isn’t collective punishment a violation of human rights, according to the UN?

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Would you say the same if one member of a group was a Nazi? No, you'd rightly assume they're all nazis.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Nice ASSumption. Actually, yeah, I’d say exactly the same. Human rights are human rights. Fortunately, it isn’t up to people like you to decide who gets them

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Guy who wants to not ban groups that assault people doesn't want people to have the right to decide and vote on human rights. The irony.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Since they’re rights, they are inherent. You don’t get to vote on them

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, you're an American. I don't know why anyone bothers.

We vote for them by voting for the parties propose legislative changes.

See the Human Rights Act.

Edit: And just for the record I 100% support Palestine. I don't support Palestine Action.

[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, you’re an American.

Say what you will about the US. It's far from perfect. But their legal model for human rights is more robust than many of their peer countries. The fact that free speech is constitutionally protected there is good thing and the fact that free speech is dependent on majority support is a weakness of the UK system; that is, after all, how the UK got themselves into this current situation.

(I'm not American btw, and I'm by no means a big fan of the US. But still, you have to give credit where credit is due.)

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They literally murdered their own citizens in broad daylight and it was filmed.

But yes, in theory they can say what they want. See how it's often used to belittle minorities and gay people.

Brilliant system. Couldn't fault it.

[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Brilliant system. Couldn’t fault it.

If you read my original comment, you'll notice that I said the US is far from perfect and I'm not a big fan. That said, it's an incredibly unnuanced take to think that literally everything the US does is evil. They do at least some things right, even if you want to argue that, on balance, they suck. And one of the things that they do do right is their protections of free speech. This prevents a situation where you can arrest people for protesting in support of Palestine, as currently happens in the UK and Australia.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know why anyone bothers.

And yet, here you are. Feel free to stop at any time

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

For a "professor" that was pretty weak response xD

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In my defense, it was before dawn here. I’ll do better next time :D

FWIW, I generally agree with you about “Why bother?” With regard to Americans. We seem to have become a population dominated by zealots of one ilk or another in all the federally overrepresented states. It’s exhausting.

Most days, I think the US would be better off if Cornwallis hadn’t surrendered.

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Well we're not doing much better over here. Thr world has gone mad.

[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Or something...

Glad you came prepared.

[–] greyfrog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 hours ago

I'm sorry is this an Internet message board or a thesis? Do you're own research I'm not your fucking mother.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Step 1: Wear a mask + sunglasses.

Step 2: Destroy them.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget to walk funny

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Probably throw a pebble in one shoe should work, or at least help.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That is horrid. I would never leave my house without a mask. Fuck that.

Or maybe invest in some of those anti surveillance full face masks.

They ain't doing this for YOUR benefit or protection.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Wait till you read about gait recognition. Add that to data streams consolidated by Palantir tracking your gps via cell phone, purchase tracking, and they don’t really need to see your face. They can still track you by your cars registration plates with enough accuracy.

They will have a 90% tracking rate regardless of your face being behind a mask.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 35 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Policing Minister, Sarah Jones said: "I welcome today's ruling because there can be no true liberty when people live in fear of crime in their communities.

Sarah Jones is someone who should live in fear, and the fact she doesn't, is the real danger to society.