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[–] musket528@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 hours ago

in 10 years we will probably get an option to hide feed altogether and forward users to their subscriptions.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

But is there also an option to show only shorts? Real free choice settings would offer that.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I see a trend of corporations at least trying to deshittify their products a little.

But I have a theory, that there will be a separate app for Shorts, and nobody will use it, unless it will be pre-installed.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I don't have a YouTube account, and have no interest in getting one. I hid shorts with this browser add-on:

https://github.com/Vulpelo/hide-youtube-shorts

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 52 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Me on new pipe and invidious:

[–] sompreno@lemmy.zip 5 points 12 hours ago

Are you self hosting? Public domains have been getting hit hard

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago

That's not the face I make. Usually there's more eyebrow commotion going on as I try to figure out why it's taking so long to load the video or why I'm getting some random error message that means nothing to a rando trying to watch a video on their phone.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm already filtering out sharts with various plugins, but I wanted to enable this setting anyway to signal yt to fuck off.

Turns out, 15min is the lowest timer. Can't turn it off completely

[–] lumpyluggage@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago

The article says that's the previous limit. So they probably do a staggered rollout

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What’s the maximum time you can set it off for?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 18 hours ago
[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It’s a dark-pattern control just to say they are doing something about it.

It only limits the number of minutes you can death-scroll Shorts. You’re still drinking from the Shorts firehose for up to 15 min, minimum.

You can’t turn shorts off. Edit: this may be only in the U.S.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Okay now get rid of the in-video ads and AI slop and I might consider actually using a first-party interface again.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock works just fine. When it comes to AI content, just ignore it and it'll dissapear from your recommendations.

For virtually everything wrong with youtube there's an add-on to fix it or a behavior to change. So many people can't help but watch short-form content for example and then they complain their feed is all shorts - I wonder why.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think you may have overlooked the part about "first party interface".

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It is still a first party web interface.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

tl;dr:

App only. Account -> Settings ->Time Management -> Shorts feed limit

Browser: I use a couple plugins to purge sharts from existence. One of them that also does a LOT of customization and usability fixes: https://github.com/code-charity/youtube

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

Even when set to 0 you'll still see shorts, it just stops (or limits) the infinite scrolling.

[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s a dark-pattern control just to say they are doing something about it.

It only limits the number of minutes you can death-scroll Shorts. You’re still drinking from the Shorts firehose for up to 15 min, minimum.

You can’t turn shorts off.

Edit: this may be only in the U.S.

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Europe here, 15min is minimum.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

Can we also turn off community posts? Why am I seeing them from random people I don't give a shit about. I don't even want to see them from the people I do care about.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Hi! I'm one of the few people who enjoy YouTube Shorts.

I don't hate the idea of TikTok, I hate the privacy and political implications. I installed it on my Android phone (already a privacy nightmare) and I didn't hate it. Made an account with a burner email. They send 2-3 emails a day. I didn't get into TikTok per se, but I didn't hate using it. I could have done something about the spammy notifications (which I was getting on my iPhone since I used iCloud's Hide My Email feature), but ultimately I didn't like using it.

Even on my TV, I was fine with the vertical videos. Vertical videos shouldn't be a thing because you can/should turn your phone (and some phones used to make you do it to record video!), but I don't hate that they are a thing. I only don't like footage that is cropped to look like vertical video. It's like Pan & Scan (4:3 video format that slides back and forth along the original video frame as needed, popular on VHS) all over again.

What really fucks me off about YouTube is the AI generated shit. I listen to a lot of Japanese music, so AI generated subtitles are not the worst thing in the world. Thing is, I took this song ("Anima" by ReoNa) and I took several translations, including an AI one, and rolled my own subtitles for the video, taking what I assumed to be the artist's intent and going with the words I thought conveyed her meanings as best I could (not knowing Japanese). Like you can say "konnichiwa" means hello/good day, but when you're talking about a philosophical song about the colour of the soul, asking if a person's bravery or hesitation (bordering on cowardice/fear) makes them brave or not... you're not gonna get a very accurate translation, which is why all the translations suck, including mine. But mine is what I chose to go with and it's about as accurate as the others.

The worst part is the ads, but it only affects my Apple TV box. On my Macs I use Firefox with uBlock Origin. I also have Wipr2, but that only affects Safari. On my iPhone, I use Safari with Wipr2 and it gets most of the ads. On my Android phone, I use Firefox with uBlock Origin. The only place I'm not protected is my Apple TV, which is why my next one will be a gently used Mac mini so I don't have to use the derpy tvOS — though, notably, tvOS itself is the best smart TV interface (no ads, just icons). I think I can make macOS into a better smart TV platform, with just a few icons on the dock and maximum magnification on hover, the highest zoom setting, and whatever else — I haven't really begun planning it yet. But, I think, with a wireless keyboard/mouse combo (like a Logitech K400 or similar, or one of those game controller looking keyboards you can get on Amazon from China), a Mac (or Linux PC) could be the best TV interface. (I'm not ruling out a Raspberry Pi, which kinda seems obvious, I just like Apple stuff.)

[–] musket528@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

tbh, the concept of tiktok-style videos is really good for science and small useful info bits. the problem is that creators have to make money -> they optimize for the algorithm -> make trash

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I'm with you about not hating shorts. My YouTube algorithm is great, the shorts it recommends are very geeky or from topics that I'm very interested in and I can just jump to my subscriptions if I don't want to see random shorts/videos

[–] darklamer@feddit.org -4 points 13 hours ago

I'm one of the few people who enjoy YouTube Shorts.

Seek help.

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 7 points 19 hours ago

I've been using this list for ublock - https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts (see list.txt).

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

So many of the shorts I’ve seen are repackaged Tik Tok that it makes sense for YT not to encourage publishing on a competitor first.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

Man, I love shorts. My shit is curated af though. My algorithm is good to me. Mainly science facts, wood working, badminton, web dev tips, comedy, and Rocket League clips. Just what I like.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I love shorts.

They're comfy and easy to wear.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's a pokémon joke. In the first games there is a kid who has a very random line about his love for shorts, and since then they've put someone like him with a similar quote in a lot of games.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

lol okay! I haven't played Pokemon 😅 Thanks for the context!

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait til a single TV show clip catches your interest. Shorts are desperate to get us out of our curated bubbles.

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[–] darklamer@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Man, I love shorts.

No, this is not true. An independent study originally paid for and later silenced by YouTube scientifically proved that absolutely no-one likes shorts.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

🤷‍♂️ don't know what to tell you, I watch em all the time, and I don't find it hard to stop.

[–] Krelis_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you like and comment on them? I tend not to engage aside from scrolling and it makes me wonder if interacting more would make it better

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I like stuff I want to see more of, dislike stuff I'm not interested in, and I also click "Do not show more from this account" (or whatever the option is) for stuff that I really don't want more of, like brain rot and braindead politicians and maga personalities and the like.

Do this enough and your algorithm should improve, too. Best of luck!

[–] 123@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I love blocking annoying accounts. Not interested in low quality creators that put out 3-4 long form content videos every week and 3 daily shorts.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I heard that. 🤝

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 2 points 19 hours ago

so, they enable it the least disruptive place (for their shorts) at least IMHO, because more likely people on their phone would look at shorts over a set top / desktop environment watchers. Hopefully it rolls out to these as well

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Revanced has had that for YEARS

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

I use PipePipe on Android without a Google account. Hiding shorts has need an option for a while for me. 😁

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Not an awful decision.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 1 points 18 hours ago

I watch YouTube via IronFox and I have a lot of extensions to make it more palatable already !

BTW if anyone knows of a good replacement for "Untrap for YouTube" that actually gets updated, that would be nice. Around 50% of the buttons are useless on this website, I miss being able to hide almost all of them...

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I don’t see it so it may be slowly rolling out?

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