I don't know that "losing horribly" is a fair assessment (although it went very badly for Ukraine in the beginning), especially in the last year or so, which I'd categorize as a stalemate. and, especially recently, it really seems to be turning to Ukraine's favor considering the number of reversals, advances, and victories.

edit : and the world now considers you Drone Wizards, so that's pretty cool

[+] esc@piefed.social -7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It doesn't turn to Ukraine's favour it's barely even turns into attack capability parity, and there is no technological moat, every innovation would be copied and implemented in a year or two. And it would be implemented with much greater numbers and cohesive doctrine.

m*scovia can ignore stalemate, it's a win condition for them. In a month or two there will be big and probably successful advances in Donetsk oblast, specifically Kostyantynivka and Kramatrosk-Slavyansk aglomeration in general.

[–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really don't agree with your assessment. I find it overly critical of Ukraine's position and naively optimistic of Russia's, based on publicly available information and the trajectory of the war over the last 6-12 months.

[+] esc@piefed.social -8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fact is m*scovites are learning and can produce a lot more hardware, and even if they are completely stopped tomorrow it's a win for them.

[–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not if Ukranian drones keep blowing up their oil and gas refineries and their manufacturing plants

[+] esc@piefed.social -9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There were like 0 successful attacks that stopped manufactoring completely and there can't be without (much) heavier payloads in attack means, as in something analogous to at least kab-500 in payload that can be tossed every day by hundreds. And we still don't have a functioning explosive and gunpowder plants twelve years after the war started.

[–] homes@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

attacks don't need to stop manufacturing "completely" to be successful, and comparing total payloads is meaningless when targets are different in scope, especially if the strike is tactical and effective. and considering the massive foreign weapons shipments Ukraine is getting, those weapons plants don't seems as important as the very functioning drone industry

[–] esc@piefed.social -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think your view is a bit twisted by (somewhat true) but essentially misleading news. And massive foreign weapons shipments don't change situation or change it in insignificant ways due to them being either limited in number or scope. There is no real drone industry as long as all microelectronics is bought from china. We can produce everything as long as china allows us and they are firmly in m*scovite corner.

Also attacks along frontline with heavy bombs will stop advance completely or almost completely.

[–] homes@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

look, you're not really backing up what you're saying with anything, and the logic of your arguments doesn't hold up to scrutiny. you haven't changed my mind, and I don't see the point in continuing this debate.

have a nice day.

[–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"... and cohesive doctrine." You lost me right there buddy. Are you seeing how the Russian military conducts their operations?

[–] esc@piefed.social -4 points 1 week ago

I do, actually, they do it by the book. It's just the books they used earlier were outdated. When you get rubikon or judgement day within your line you are fucked. They are professional, have good communication (which we lack and can't communicate even essential shit to neighboring units), have a lot of resources.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

does this mean, we can become work from home drone pilots for Ukraine?

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Nice.