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[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 252 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Viktor fucking POS Orban steps down with more dignity after 16 years than our own home grown dictator wannabe did after 4. What a timeline to be alive in.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 122 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably because Orban actually fears backlash from his population. The US doesn't seem to have to worry about that for some strange reason...

[–] aldhissla@piefed.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. If Orbáns past failures had been as over-reported as his posturing, people would be way less surprised about his current democratic loss.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What country are you talking about when you say your home grown dictator?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 212 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Vance killed this and the Iran deal hahaha. What a couch fucking loser.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

If only he could get the orange pedoclown too...

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Best we could do is Pope Francis

[–] MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Your username would be the preferred method.

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[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He also killed Pope Francis

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why must we make everything about Americans?

Sure, the guy paid a visit, but he's hardly a big political or social force here in Europe.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Because they try to demolish the EU on purpose to gain strength. USAs biggest fear right now is a strong EU that can financially block 2 trillion dollars of income to american companies, if Trump and his fellow couch fuckers invades greenland.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because it’s funny the think about. Vance thinks he’s so important he can sway a foreign election to go the way Trump wants. In reality he’s so weak and ineffective, it swung violently the other way.

It’s theatre. Every time the couch fucker gets involved in something, people put the plastic back on the furniture and prepare for a show.

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A couch is going to get violated tonight.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Another one bites the couch!

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[–] fun_times@lemmy.world 156 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

On the one hand, his ideology is more or less identical to Orban's (he used to be a Fidesz party member until two tears ago).

On the other hand, he is somewhat EU friendly, supports Ukraine and, most importantly, is the head of a different party. 16 years of Fidesz rule is over. That's not nothing.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 72 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán. He also stated it was not easy to leave and/or cut ties due to mafia-like behavior, fear of his or his family's life. His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out ~~due to also going against Orbán's wishes.~~ pardoning a pedophile, and they divorced soon after.

You have to understand that Orbán is literally an oligarch with tons of money, ties to Russia and the underworld. Magyar only quite recently collected enough support (about 2 years ago I think) to start his own political movement.

[–] elBedrock@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán.

Can you provide a source for this please? I am a Hungarian and never heard of this.

His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out due to also going against Orbán's wishes.

She was kicked out because she gave an official pardon to a well known pedophile. They divorced after that.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s

Fidesz (Orban):

  • Ideology: Christian Nationalism, Illiberalism, Authoritarianism, National Conservatism, Right-wing Populism
  • Political position: Far-right

Tisza (Magyar):

  • Ideology: Conservative Liberalism, Populism, Pro-Europeanism
  • Political position: Centre to centre-right

I've heard this angle before, but these parties don't seem to be in any way identical.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago

So like a Macron. Not great, but definitely an improvement.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 2 weeks ago

In 2026 I take what I can get. And I am damn glad for it!

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 110 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We wrote history today. Amazing victory

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Who would had thought it wouldn't help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It's almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that's why they aren't mentioned)

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago

Congratulations! Russia, go home!

[–] oce@jlai.lu 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm happy for your people and for Europe. I hope this movement keeps its promises.

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[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 89 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank god! I hope that's the last time we see Orban for a very very long time!!

[–] marx@piefed.social 90 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Still a lot of work to do. His cronies still hold a ton of power and control much of the media.

Magyar winning will get the headlines but Tisza getting a supermajority in parliament (which they seem on track to do but I don’t think is official yet) will be the much more important win. That’s where durable reform can be made.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, not the time to relax but to work even harder to reverse the damage that was done.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tisza getting a supermajority

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2d8zw2d3rkt?post=asset%3Ac1a77fae-f1ed-4199-b821-86c5fce32a01#post

We are now at 96.37% of the votes counted and Tisza is projected to have 138 seats, Fidesz 55 seats and Our Homeland on six. Tisza is in the lead in 93 constituencies, while Fidesz is ahead in 13. Some votes are yet to be counted but a landslide victory is all but certain.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are there good signs these guys would make such reforms instead of holding onto the power given by changes made by Orban?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They campaigned on wealth taxes, term limits for every member of parliament, an independent prosecutor's office, joining the EPPO and so on.

They have unlimited power right now, but are dependent on an extremely heterogenous voter base that would implode if they look the wrong way.

Nothing is certain, but it could not look much better right now.

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[–] Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine being such a world class fuck up that you fucking torpedo a 16 year long dictatorship by stumping for it for a week... that's so incompetent it's almost impressive.

[–] LonelySea@reddthat.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Well, we can't say that they did nothing good for this planet.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Y'all think the UK will rejoin the EU next?

And Ukraine, while they're at it.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Sure seems like a roundabout way of just... being in the EU.

Are you British, by chance? What's the mood on Brexit these days?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The Brexit crowd have gone conspicuously silent about it. Their lack of crowing says a lot about it.

Even before Brexit, the tide had turned, and that's only gotten stronger. Unfortunately, the government had their vote and hammered it through. (The fact there was an EU rule change, on tax transparency, the next day, and would have embarrassed a lot of rich UK toffs had NOTHING to do with the timing)

Unfortunately, the reform party is far too strong, and trying to drag us to the extreme right. Our "left wing" primary party (Labour) is now further right than the conservatives (center right party) traditionally sit.

It's... frustrating.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

What a great day for Democracy, now hopefully he follows through on his promise of constitutional reform and dismantling the Orban mafia so this can't happen again.

[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

People tend to underestimate the enormous success of the EU. It can be seen in the economical developments of Poland and the Baltic states. Ukraine saw it and wanted in on it. Russia knowing that if Ukraine too would 'fall' to democracy, Russia itself would inevitably follow. So Navalny needed to be killed, Ukraine invaded, the EU sabotaged. Hungary was their pawn. Not only could Hungary halt EU decision making through veto's, they could also be used in propaganda. How can Putin be all bad if even this EU country sympathizes with him? The EU will now be very inclined to make Hungary as succesfull as they can. It's too early to celebrate, the Hungarian government will still be filled with lots of Fidesz bureaucrats. And the new government may still be inclined to use its ties with Russia. But the past decades have proven that the cheap Russian oil can't compensate for the corruption that comes along. Magyars anti-corruption stance is pretty much saying: we want to model our country towards the EU examples, not Russia. Lets hope Magyar succeeds and other countries follow. Lets hope that eventually Belarus and Russia will rejoin the European family. The world has much to win here. The US not understanding why they need to support Ukraine tells us they don't care much for democracy anymore. It's understandable that if your government fails to supply you with decent living conditions, you won't be inclined to support helping out other countries on the path towards decent government. But both can be done at the same time: focus on sorting out your own government, while simultaneously supporting other countries on the same path. The EU has been the driving force behind multilateralism. If we want a rules-based order, if we want to save the planet, if we want a better future, we want a strong EU leading the way. We want to support nations in their striving for democracy.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now Hungary has the challenge of rebuilding their nation after 16 years of MAGA-style destruction.

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[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 11 points 2 weeks ago

Great, lets see what changes now. It would be good to have Hungary "back" in the European Union. But it is too soon to tell.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So this means EU's aud to Ukraine is unblocked, unless the lowlife fascists in Czechia or Slovakia decide to take Hungary's place in being obstructive.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They better don't. Otherwise we'll send JD on a visit.

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