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Edit: holy shit I turn my head around for one second and I got 40 replies? THANK YOU ALL :D <3

I just rewatched Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy and following Bane's and Miranda's story made me realize that I'm a bit saturated in regards to playing as the hero, the protagonist, the "good guy" in PC games. While I love saving the world as much as the next person, I'd love to play as some perhaps self-righteous villain, or antagonist, or simply somebody portrayed in a way that's meant to make the player sympathize with questionable morality or, at the very least, be conflicted about why you suddenly find yourself rooting for them.

I'm mostly looking for story driven open world single player games, but any recommendations are welcome. :)

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Hmmm a day later and no one mentioned braid.

Helldivers games, you're the exploitative, fascist empire who creates its own problems.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Mafia series - You play as a murderous mobster

Tropico series - You play as the dictator of a small banana republic

Red Dead Redemption - You're Arthur Morgan, an outlaw who kills for money

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I loved playing trópico 4 good. Just trying to do the best for my little Sims and never squirreling money away to the swiss bank account.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

minecraft

you show up in a mostly peaceful world and just start destroying it, enslaving villagers and treating peaceful mobs inhumanely to farm them so you can go kill more mobs that were leaving you alone

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Stubbs the zombie

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago

Stray. You're a cat. Cats are evil.

You can do some pretty evil shit in Baldur's Gate 3. Definitely makes you question your morals. The Dark Urge player character story is pretty messed up.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Came back to say Fable and Fable II are peak evil path RPGs.

[–] mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Tyranny. I mean, you could end up being the good guy, depending on what that means to you, but you start leading an army to conquer part of the world at the behest of Kyros the Overlord. I think I would classify Kyros as a sort of Lawful Evil type. He seems to want to bring peace and order to the world, but chooses to do it through conquest and harshly enforced laws.

[–] Azrael@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago

This game isn't exactly niche, but Red Dead Redemption II is a really good one. You play as an outlaw on the run from bounty hunters while your gang is falling, their ideals are crumbling, and society no longer wants them. Arthur Morgan is part of a dying way of life.

The game also has an honor system where your status is determined by how evil or good you are. Help strangers = high honor. Rob and murder indiscriminately = walking nightmare

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Fallout New Vegas

The number of opportunities the game gives you to be an absolute piece of shit is ridiculous.

Here are some examples:

Get the Terrifying Presence perk and literally become evil incarnate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBC2OYLM0k

Or just level up speech and be mean in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STptNbHOXWg

[–] Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

TIE Fighter. Flying as a pilot for the Empire in Star Wars including flying alongside Vader to save the Emperor. Includes getting pulled into a secret society with a cool glowing force tattoo showing your rank in service to the Emperor.

The game never says your name but in the old expanded universe books you are basically the Empire version of Wedge.

Edit - It isn't open world but the limited story does do well at making you feel like you should in the role.

I'll add that the game came with a manual that did have the character name and a back story. Short version is your character was an illegal swoop bike racer on a world that had been in a multi generation war. Includes your father dying. The empire stops it by basically making it impossible to for the two world to even be able to send attacks at each other. Then recruits all the youth that would have fought in their own war and just sends them out to different parts of the empires wars.

Your preexisting flight skills gets you first a mechanic job on a Star Destroyer and then you save a VIP while testing repairs on a TIE Fighter and get pulled in as an actual pilot with a quiet push to get you up the ranks due to your impressive start.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Factorio, you literally colonize alien species and pollute their worlds because you feel like it.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Satisfactory in the same regard as well. At first I felt bad about disrupting the natural landscape. But then I needed more power, and land for my factories. And then more land for more power for more factories on more land. It's a fun cycle.

It's like a different kind of bad guy... a real world kind of bad guy, really.

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[–] Yesbutnotquite@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Shocked to see no one's suggested Tyranny yet which is an isometric RPG where you specifically play one of the bad guys. Yeah you can make some "good" decisions but ultimately, you're a foot soldier for the bad guys. It's got plenty of that conflict about what's right and wrong that you're looking for too!

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[–] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The GTA series might be a good example. All of the protagonists of the games commit exceedingly worse crimes as the game progresses but they're made to be sympathetic since they just want success in a world with not much other opportunities.

Games with karma systems may work as well if the bad option isn't overtly evil. I'm thinking games like Dishonored, Fable 3, Undertale, or any Bethesda game.

Anti-hero protagonists like Kratos from God of War, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead 2, and V from Cyberpunk could also somewhat fit the bill.

Edit: just watched an Outside Xbox video that summarizes a few games with just this premise.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 48 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not even one mention of Prototype. What have the world become.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Prototype. Man. What a fucking BLAST that was. The super powers you had by the end of the game combined with the techniques you could use.

Surfing corpses, eating people alive to clone their appearance. Slicing, smashing, or just tearing apart tanks. Throwing cars. It was just absolute mayhem and I doubt we will see another game quite so unhinged.

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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Disco Elysium's protagonist is a walking disaster and there are a lot of ways you can play him. Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play. You definitely don't feel like a hero while you're playing

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[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 30 points 4 days ago (8 children)

No one's said Infamous yet. Shocking. Well Infamous. You get to choose if you're going to be good or bad and it's super satisfying either way. Dishonered has that same sort of choice, also amazing whichever way you go.

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Planescape: Torment
Disco Elysium
Prototype
Crackdown

Already mentioned elsewhere but seconding the recommendations: Infamous I and II Bioshock Infinite

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Knights of the Old Republic SW games. You can join the dark side.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Well there's always Grand Theft Auto.

[–] owsei@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

RimWorld RTS, survival, colony builder. Survive, stranded, on a hostile planet filled with pirates, ancient mechanoids and giant killer bugs.

You can play however you wish. I always end up playing as drugged-up organ-harvesting slave owners.

There is a very detailed simulation of the human body, with each organ having it's own scars, damages and conditions, all affecting each other. There are also developed systems for drugs, combat, diseases, mood and mental breakdowns.

Honestly it's simpler sci-fi Dwarf Fortress

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Saints Row games. They're like GTA, but increasingly over the top in their parody. You're the boss of a criminal gang. 2 is still "normal parody" and a bit dated, 3 jumped the shark while doing a kickflip with a jet ski, 4 is even more insane.

Sleeping Dogs you play as a cop, but you can betray the law and side more with the criminals.

Warcraft 3 (old but gold) - the human campaign of the base game gets you from a hopeful young paladin prince into a cold, vengeful psychopath; the following undead campaign is said prince (well, king now) finishing the job of killing everyone and further fucking everything. The expansion has 3 extra campaigns, none with "good guys"

Divinity Original Sin (1 and 2) lets you play as big of an asshole as you'd like. Of the Elder Scrolls games, Morrowind is the one that lets you be the biggest bad guy around (you can still finish the game even if you kill every important npc and break every quest)

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

No recommendations, but just wanted to thank you for a real good question.

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 35 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Dungeon Keeper.

Destroy all humans.

Spec ops the line.

Braid.

Manhunt.

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[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Carrion

It's a modern 2D pixel art reverse horror game, it's real fun.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Baldur's Gate 3. Not only can you make an evil character, one of the premades is a special evil character called the Dark Urge and basically forces you into doing things that are often even more fucked up than the basic bad guy stuff.

Most cRPGs are like that, actually. Rogue Trader is another good one. Being a paragon of good is nigh impossible in that one, since you're basically a tyrannical land baron in the WH40k universe where everyone is garbage. 😃

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Party Hard. You're trying to murder everyone at a series of large parties without getting caught. I guess you're fed up with your neighbour's loud parties. Retro graphics. Humorous. Lots of creative mayhem.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Evil Genius. Its old but you play as a super villain.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

Dungeon Keeper 2

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Some of the better RPGs allow you to play as an evil guy (equally fleshed out as the good guy playthrough), e.g. Baldur's Gate 3 (it even has a special evil background storyline called The Dark Urge) or (some of?) the Mass Effect titles.

Cult of the Lamb is also a great game where you play a cult leader. Although the game's design is strong on the entertaining/funny side, it's kind of dark also.

Stellaris is a grand strategy game where you can play anything, from a ruthless ruler trying to destroy the whole galaxy to a pacifist trader.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

The dark urge can be played sort of good too. I watched the Christopher Odd playthrough and he stayed mostly morally good I'd say, although eventually did become a mind flayer.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Civilization. Choose Ghandi. You're welcome.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Echoing Spec Ops: The Line.

It's no longer available on Steam, but if you can find a way to play it then you should. Probably the most necessary game about war at the moment.

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