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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

-> start a war with Iran for no reason

-> don't consult any allies apart from Israel

-> "EU and NATO assistance unnecessary"

-> turns out Iran is prepared and responds

-> "if NATO doesn't help, the alliance is over"

🤡🤡🤡

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all because we don’t need it.”

“We have a lot of oil,” said Trump. “We were the number one producer anywhere in the world times two by double, at least double. Now I think it’s much higher than that. But we do it. It’s almost like we do it for habit, but we also do it for some very good allies that we have in the Middle East.”

That does not at all sound like a "probably we shouldn't be there" statement. It reads more like "some say we shouldn't but we do it anyways because ..."

Like he outright states he's doing it for Israel and because Israel asked him to and somehow convinced him. He's not backing down. That's not what he's saying there.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 8 hours ago

...somehow?..like four-decade-honeypot somehow?..

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Man I sometimes have dreams that everyone suddenly realizes Trump is senile, is removed from office, the US apologizes for what he's done, pays everything back, presses undo on everything.
Its not too late. Undo America!

senile

fun fact: The word "senate" goes back to the same origin than the world "senile": Both go back to latin "senex" meaning old man.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Make American great again again

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Every action I take is with that goal in mind.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

The good news is we already won! It's over! Trump told me so last week.

[–] Itwasntme223@discuss.online 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Watch him claim later on that he doesn't know why they're in Iran because he never gave the orders to do that. It must have been Hegseth.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Jesus, you've seen beyond the veil and can actually think like him! I could see him doing that like tomorrow.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

He was already shifting the blame like that a few days ago.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 36 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Epstein distraction turned into another mid term issue and no one stopped paying attention to the Epstein issue. Can't keep winning

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

People care about 200$ oil prices more than the Epstein files. It's an unbelievably dumb move. It's only March but it will take time for prices to go down because they're going to be capping wells now and some of them won't be restarted, if they don't end this soon. And fertilizer has to be used for spring crops.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 20 points 22 hours ago

Bloomberg has regular interviews with analysts for giant investment firms. They had one who specializes in government debt. She said she talks to the people who work the front office for politicians. The Iran war and affordability come up regularly but the number one question they get is about the Epstein files.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 day ago

“Sorry, your son died in this war. We shouldn’t even have been there.”

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So, like, at what point does the rest of the world just declare war on us for the cabinet not using the 25th?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When one of their own shillionaires gets killed by Trump's stupidity.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

No, they'll just support the Dems

[–] JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

Oh my god… he is so stupid and worthless.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

This reveals how piss poor the planning was the lack of concern for the dead and wounded. Life is cheap under the MAGA fucks.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We ~~SHOULD~~ ~~SHOULD NOT~~ ~~SHOULD~~ ~~SHOULD NOT~~ ~~SHOULD~~ SHOULD NOT be at War!

-Free Thinking Republicans who Voted for Trump for Peace!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 21 hours ago

They're MAGAs, they are always pro-war, no matter they claim.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 158 points 1 day ago (16 children)

He later said: “So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory because it is their territory, it’s the place from which they get their energy and they should come and they should help us protect it.”

Then came the line that quickly sparked reaction online:

“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all because we don’t need it.”

It's Iran's terrority, and Iran is defending it after being attacked...

But I really think he's getting pressure from Christian extremists to abandon Israel. Their endgame was always Israel getting wiped out by its neighbors to start Armageddon and rapture Christians.

If no one joins against Iran, trump will likely try to slink away and Bibi holding the bag.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And he threatened NATO, who by all his accounts "stood back from the front lines" When Article 5 was called during the bullshit second Gulf War. And now he DEMANDS they help. Sure buddy.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (31 children)

I just love the quote:

So, we need, I, I would really, I’m demanding...

He starts with needing help, starts to say he just really wants it, then pivota to demanding it.

The fact that he went thru those steps shows how much pressure he's facing.

His two biggest wings of influence has been Israel and American christo-fascists, if they start pulling him in opposite ways, he can't hold onto both.

He's fucked, but so are the rest of us by extension. Hopefully just till midterms at least.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 38 points 1 day ago (20 children)

The thing is, as a foreigner, and speaking bluntly, this is on the entire American population, voting him in once was one thing, but not dealing with Jan 6 harshly under Bidens administration did nothing more than encourage them and their billionaire backers. IF there's no false flag operation to cancel the midterms and IF presidential elections are held and the democrats get into power, you lot are going to have to overhaul your entire system to ensure another Trump doesn't happen. And honestly speaking I can't realistically see that happening.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Man I am so fucking ready for the Nationalist Christians to become huge fucking pariahs as a direct result of all of the idiocy that they’ve been pushing

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crazy reality when the bare minimum ideal to aim for is not electing senile pedophiles to the most influential position on the planet Earth.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Explain to me who can possibly be stunned at this point that Donald Trump's a braindead moron who has no idea what's going on.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

we've always been at ear with Iran. It is joe bidens fault for not ending the war which I will end soon

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump is a moron and so are his supporters. It’s a moron horde.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Never underestimate idiots in large numbers.

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[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Nobody has ever been dumber.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We were the number one producer anywhere in the world times two by double

TIL we produce 4x the amount of oil as any other country.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Like many dementia afflictionados, he sometimes has a millisecond of clarity

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

It's almost like he only joined in on the war because Israel was instructing him or something.

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Every so often the truth comes out and it's shocking AF when it comes from there.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Senile old pedo rapist "thinks" out loud...

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is “stuns” really the right word to use anymore?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I mean, I'm stunned any time he says something true....

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