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[–] anzo@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it's just not information given in good faith. That's not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 152 points 3 days ago (5 children)

automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I'll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for "Ubuntu Pro"? oh get fucked Canonical.

Friends don't let Friends install Ubuntu.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it's grown into a monster. I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Debian is so nice as a server OS. It's also a great alternative for WSL if you're forced to use a Windows computer.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I already run Debian on my desktop and 3 other small servers. I just haven't moved over my main one yet because of the complexity, and procrastination.

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[–] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 29 points 3 days ago

And they've tied the dependency tree together such that you can't disable them without entirely breaking updates.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

Even Microsoft hasn't put ads in the terminal I think.

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 79 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Appreciate it as a mobile user!

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[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu's trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made...

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've come to learn that it might be AI writing these

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

100%... I just had a look through the other articles too and they reek of AI.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 days ago

Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles.. Who the fudge writes like this?

Text in image:

This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 12 points 2 days ago

why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Strong agree. I use a derivative that blocks snaps instead of direct Kubuntu now, and it wasn't Just because of the snaps.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (45 children)

I use a derivative

Without Ubuntu Pro subscription the entire Universe repository does not receive any security updates by Canonical:

https://canonical.com/blog/ubuntu-pro-enhanced-security-and-manageability-for-linux-desktop

You should consider switching to an entirely independent distribution that does not lock security updates behind a paywall, perhaps something based directly on Debian or Fedora.

[–] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

The updates available through Ubuntu Pro wouldn’t have normally been available prior to Pro. It’s an added service, not something that was previously available that is now locked behind a paywall. There are plenty of reasons to not like Canonical but this isn’t one.

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Yes, that is not just OS repos. There have been plenty of cases with PIP and NPM hosting malware.

[–] Qwel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Not this kind of malware specifically. Their snap repo has a policy of allowing fully automatic app submission as long as the app is sandboxed. This led to multiple people submiting modified crypto wallet apps under the branding of the original trusted devs, without any challenge on Ubuntu's part. You could also put up a Librewolf version that leaks all the passwords you type in, or a Signal without encryption - ✨ endless creativity ✨. This specific attack is harder on Flathub as all apps have to be checked by the moderation team, and they should ask question if your Librewolf package is built from your own repo.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Thanks. I have to wonder if people became allergic to posting text that can be resized to my screen.

Although the site is also shit, on the phone the text column is like twenty characters wide.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 27 points 3 days ago

The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.

Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).

[–] Lawnman23@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.

https://itsfoss.com/opinion/why-hate-ubuntu/

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article from LinuxTeck is AI generated. Not unlikely the itsfoss was used as inspiration or whatever since ot was posted the week before.

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[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

arch

bow and arrow

is this from another dimension?

Is .gif different there?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

All symbols are wrong, but in ways that oddly make sense:

  • Mint - it's a leaf.
  • Fedora - it's a wearable.
  • Debian - the logo coils itself, so does a snake.
  • Arch - arcus~arco~arc is "bow" in Latin/Romance.

I don't know if what I'm going to say is correct, but this smells like LLM shitting emojis.

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[–] Aatube@thriv.social 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

is it just me or does especially the text read AI-generated?

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 12 points 2 days ago

The whole "verified facts, no FUD" title is exactly the kind of shit an LLM would write. (And it'll still make up a ton of "facts", of course)

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

It's also using unicode emojis for Linux distros (that don't really make sense) instead of their logos. The whole thing is likely AI generated.

[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

This style of website design is almost certainly AI made

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

It 100% is...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Lmao, they put ads in the terminal? Are they pandering to Win11 users?? :)

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is that what that is? I thought it was a grocery bag.

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Company gonna company. Switch back to Debian and realize most of what Ubuntu did was copy Debian and allow for non free drivers.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Snap is the cancer of Linux. Go work for Micro$lop if you like to disrespect users.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 10 points 3 days ago

. . . and it all boils down to "Canonical being into rent-seeking and having weird NIH issues that make it push low-quality own software (snaps in the current iteration, but there have been others) over better solutions used by other distros."

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

ads in the terminal lol. back in 2009 I was a gentoo user and was distro shopping. looked at fedora Debian Ubuntu and arch and settled on Debian.

I don't remember if ubunto had either snap or unity back then... but I saw Ubunto as mainly making Debian easier to use. I was coming from Gentoo... debian was already easy to use 🙂

now, I use arch btw. switched in 2019 (mainly cause I got new hardware and needed latest releases and latest bugs 🙂)

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

pretty sure i ripped out snap by the short hairs. snap firefox was too buggy so switched to mozilla version. btw, i fucking hate apparmor defaults. it's gone too.

root@meh:~# snap

Command 'snap' not found, but can be installed with: apt install snapd

[–] CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Thanks for this. I started Linux with Ubuntu, just because being the most popular distro, I figured it would most likely to be compatible with everything. I was just about to make a post asking why the Linux community dunks on Ubuntu, but this graphic explains a lot

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Original at https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/

I wondered why they didn't mention that the Universe repository comes without any form of official support and that unpaid community members are expected to cherry pick bug fixes and backport them, usually resulting in no updates, a potential security risk.

Then I scrolled down and they're suggesting Ubuntu derivatives that are also affected by this (Mint pop). I have the suspicion that they don't mention to make these two look good.

See https://www.flu0r1ne.net/logs/ubuntu_withholding_universe_security_patches for a somewhat recent (2023) overview on that topic and how Ubuntu Pro plays into this.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand why go though all the trouble of leaving windows, which let's be honest is not as friction free as Lemmy likes to claim, and then land on Ubuntu.

I have to thank them for the free DVDs tho, they opened the world of Linux for me as a kid.

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