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[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Why aren’t we adding any safeguard to what commands AI models can use?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

Claude code has them, it's just that this guy apparently doesn't know how to do Terraform either

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago

Idiot forgot --no-preserve-root, what a dumb machine, heh.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least you had backup, right?

Oh, yeah, that's right. You were dumb enough to give AI full access to your production system so likely you're dumb enough to not have backups of anything either.

I take it Claude has full access to all of your git repositories as well so that it could wipe those too?

You got what you deserve

[–] Metype@pawb.social 14 points 22 hours ago

Yeah they did, they had plenty of recovery snapshots. That were able to be deleted at a whim and were deleted by Claude! :D

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anyone who lets AI do this is absolutely inept, lazy, or deserving.

In its default configuration, it stops at EVERY STEP. Do you want to run this command, do you want to update this file, here's the file I want to modify and the patch i'm going to use with adds and deletes in green and red.

If you're using it in unsafe permissions mode, click yeah sure allow Claude to run whatever the fuck it wants in this directory, or just hitting yeah sure go ahead every time, it's your own damn fault.

It's self-driving for the terminal. Don't you dare take your eyes off the road or hands off the wheel.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean I shouldn’t give AI admin privileges on my or any other machine?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

I'm rather a fan of letting it do stupid, repetitive shit. I need you to create 30 linux accounts the other day from a screen shot. Then store, initial keys and creds in my password manager platform.

Hey, Claude, write me a bash script to do this from this image. and also use best practice for removing non-standard characters from login names.

I review the loop and the general state of the OCR and let it go.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

Depends on how much you enjoy fresh installs of your OS

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago

Plus we have automation just people are lazy like you said.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Pretty funny.

[–] bold_omi@lemmy.today 23 points 1 day ago

Good. Anyone foolish enough to write code with a slop machine produces only slop. That garbage should've been deleted anyway.

That's entirely ignoring the fact that this person didn't have any backups elsewhere.

If you can't think, you can't code.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

My CTO keeps telling me I need to try agenic coding, and I keep telling him I won't touch shit until I have an isolated VM to use it in, because I'm not letting some fucking clanker nuke my scripts/documentation/mailbox/whatever for no reason.

Too bad there's never any free time to set that shit up. Oh damn........

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[–] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when Gemini got caught in a loop of self-loathing and nuked itself?

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

OpenClaw now comes with a therapist AI to talk other AIs off the ledge so they dont nuke your project and themselves.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who let's AI anywhere near production environments? Fully deserved

[–] kyliemadison@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're absolutely right! I made a fatally flawed decision by removing the production environment. The consequences likely have high impact. I'm sorry. Would you like me to log these mistakes to prevent further missteps or would you like me to write up an outline for the redeployment process?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

eh, just make up some replacement data on the fly /s

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My man was barebacking production with Claude with 2.5 years of data with no backup, high chance the data was majorly hallucinated anyway.

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[–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh no, anyways

git clone $URL

If they're not using git or fuckin backups I'm not sure I'd even feel sorry for them

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

have you heard of not giving the keys to your wacky robot wizard instead

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Im also confused. Do these people not have some sort of version control and backups? Even if the AI did it, no one has backups? Did the ai also delete the backups and repos? If the building burnt down, would they be in the same situation, it just wouldnt make it to the news?

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[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would somebody trust AI with access to their production servers, and why would that person also not have remote database backups

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only thing I can tell you is the venn diagram of those two folks is a perfect circle

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You’ve heard of vibe coding. Allow me to introduce despair coding.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Happy to see this, because it's fully deserved. Let real coders do the job!

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This keeps happening. I can understand using AI to help code, I don't understand Claude having so much access to a system.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's because these idiots believe their own bullshit.

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[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

So no real developer was harmed.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

I'm an engineer using Terraform and Claude Code as well in a much larger and more expensive setup than his.

You do not let Claude Code run terraform apply, it has zero benefits. All it does is that it runs the command and obscures the output. Most of the time is going to be spent in waiting for the automation anyway, most of the effort that you can spare is before running apply.

Also:

applying delete protections to Terraform and AWS permissions, and moving the Terraform state file to S3 storage instead of his local machine

These both take like 20 seconds, and should be in the getting started manual of Terraform and AWS databases respectively. Setting up remote state is 5 minutes in vanilla Terraform, 30 seconds in something like Terragrunt.

Also, use OpenTofu, stop supporting corporate acquisitions, also takes zero effort and money.

And finally:

most sysadmins will spot the baseline issues with Grigorev's approach, including granting wide-ranging permissions to what's effectively a subordinate of his, as well as not scoping permissions in a production environment to begin with.

No, not subordinate. Tool. Two big differences with it. A subordinate might understand more than you do about the code, a tool will guess and rely on you. And the second one is that you practically can't separate your and your tools' permissions, I mean Claude Code will supposedly ask you if it can use some tool or another and you can whitelist actions it can take, but it will never be completely locked out of destroying your database the way you can lock another user out.

[–] coalie@piefed.zip 435 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 75 points 1 day ago

Honestly. At this point, after it having happened to multiple people, multiple times, this is the only appropriate response.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You either have a backup or will have a backup next time.

Something that is always online and can be wiped while you're working on it (by yourself or with AI, doesn't matter) shouldn't count as backup.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 268 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Given that the infrastructure description included the DataTalks.Club website, this resulted in a full wipe of the setup for both sites, including a database with 2.5 years of records, and database snapshots that Grigorev had counted on as backups. The operator had to contact Amazon Business support, which helped restore the data within about a day.

Non-story. He let Terraform zap his production site without offsite backups. But then support restored it all back.

I'd be more alarmed that a 'destroy' command is reversible.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 123 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

We used to say Raid is not a backup. Its a redundancy

Snapshots are not a backup. Its a system restore point.

Only something offsite, off system and only accessible with seperate authentication details, is a backup.

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Ever hear of a backup?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Stop giving chat bots tools with this kind of access.

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[–] mudkip@lemdro.id 22 points 1 day ago

I don't feel an inkling of sympathy. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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