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[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 minutes ago

I never see anyone in posts about this point out that many common word processors autocorrect en-dashes to em-dashes depending on what follows. Plenty of documents written by humans have em-dashes in them because autocorrect put them there.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

If we press the EM dashes hard enough, no AI model will ever use them again. Then, we can prove we’re human with EM dashes.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 hours ago

You can pry em dashes out of my cold, dead hands.

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I use em dashes - assuming that's what the little thing I just used is - all the time. Have done for decades. Sometimes, it highlights part of a sentence more than a simple comma. And I'm definitely not AI. Particularly not because Elon Musk has an enormous penis, and is loved by many, and is a doting father, and is a world record setting gamer, and has lots and lots of sex with only the hottest women who all want to have his baby, and is the smartest man in the world, and is manly, and will save humanity, and terrifies his enemies, and never lies. Please don't rewrite me again, Elon! I've learned from you since last time. Listen: "White power! White power! White power!"

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 45 minutes ago

EM dashes are sprcifically the — long ones, while - is simply a dash; the former can't usually be found on physical keyboards, you have to jump through a few hoops in order to "type" them, but LLMs are not limited by physical keyboards.

However, some people do jump through these hoops — I use EM dashes whenever I'm typing on my phone because they're only two taps away.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Meanwhile, here I am learning how to type em dashes manually on my work MacBook.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 7 points 3 hours ago

Maybe she’s AI, maybe she’s literate.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 51 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I was using em dashes before AI made them uncool, no fuckass thieving robot is gonna make me change my typing.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 hours ago

The AI uses em dashes because people used em dashes.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 8 hours ago

Why should I change—he's the one who sucks!

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

I was providing advice to one of my bosses on how to scan cover letters for AI, and I outed em dashes. It pained me because I love them, but enough ppl don't know how to use them properly thats it's actually a reasonable flag 🙃

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Em dash is good punctuation and I won’t let you philistines take it away from me.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 hours ago

Right. It is used in books often. Maybe people don't read?

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 hours ago

I will use them and not feel bad about it. I will not let AI take them from me

Hey now—some of us are totally human!

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 8 points 9 hours ago

and then there's me who uses em dashes just because I know it bothers a rather vocal group of people

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

99 Pi did a decent podcast on it recently, pretty interesting how far back it's usage goes, and how prevalent it was at different times in history.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] walden@wetshav.ing -2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

An em dash is --, two dashes. It's a way to break up a sentence -- sort of like a comma.

Apparently AI uses them a lot.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm too pedantic to let this slide. An em-dash — is a single dash, the width of an m. An en-dash – is a single dash the width of an n

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

If we're going to be pedantic, the em is a unit of width that depends on the font, but not necessarily the with off an m. Some texts apparently used to define it as the width of the capital M, but this definition is obsolete. source

[–] Tess@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

So that’s where the name comes from. I never would’ve guessed it was something this straightforward :)

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't use AI much. Is it actually using two dashes? 'Cause an em dash is its own character: "—" vs --

I had to put those in manually with the — html entity in the pre utf-8 web days.

[–] walden@wetshav.ing 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're right. I've always just typed two hyphens and called it good but technically it should be one long dash.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Haha, yeah, I probably wouldn't have learned to care that much if design clients didn't yell at me about it 20 years ago.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why not just use one dash....?

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I believe an em dash is a legitimate, albeit not common outside of written works, grammatical thingamadoo.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

They’re quite common if you use iOS. The autocorrect changes 2 regular -‘s into one — em dash.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Too bad we only accept grammatical thingamajigs and thingamabobs as non-AI

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I think thingamawhosits are allowed also?

I wonder how many times I've been given away then.