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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Yeah I knew Democrats were in on this shit but if they run Kamala in 2028 then they're 100% complicit. There's 0% chance she wins

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jesus Christ, we don't need Hillary 3.0.

We need someone who can say something and it's like...actual fucking words that normal people can relate to. Not something that was written in committee by some consultants working off polling.

"Don't rape kids. Don't violate the Constitution. Everyone gets to vote."

None of this is complicated.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago

Or we could get someone who's a batshit wingnut radical and says things like:

'I think Americans should get health care without going bankrupt'
'I think big companies shouldn't be allowed to pay their workers so little they need food stamps to survive'
'I don't think private equity should be allowed to make housing unaffordable'
'I don't think we should allow ingredients that cause cancer in food'
etc.

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So this means JD Vance will be president in 2028?

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll vote blue, no matter who, but I will vote for everyone else before Harris in the primaries.

[–] Ferroto@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

THIS. If you want your voice to be heard, the primaries are where it's at.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Imagine if Trump won the Dem nomination lol

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democratic leaders are just some of the stupidest cunts imaginable.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wholeheartedly believe Democratic leaders from this time period will be remembered through acidic caricature as a way to grapple with the damage that was locked in hundreds of years ago during their lifetime. They will become essentially comedia dell'arte characters used to point out how foolish more modern analogues of them are and to remind people how dangerous it is to rely upon ideologically bankrupt centrist cowards to fight fascism.

[–] chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If she's nominated, it's a fix. Classic authoritarian playbook: maintain the illusion of democracy by propping up an opponent that you aren't likely to lose to. Then, stuff the ballot boxes anyway.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The first part of that was Hillary Clinton's entire campaign strategy. None of the Republicans wanted him as their primary candidate.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'd still take her over MAGA, any day.

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 15 points 2 days ago

If she wins the nomination, then MAGA wins the presidency.

Please don't be stupid.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Good for you, that is irrelevant because empty centrist, corporate politicians like her will never win against MAGA.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

"Hmmm, how do you feel about a Clinton-Harris ticket"

"BRILLIANT you guys are the smartest people on Earth" ~Super Secret DNC AI Advisor Deluxe Edition sponsored by Meta ^(tm)^

[–] mitch404@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Cute that US still think they will have elections after the orange buffoon. November will be very interesting, and maybe an eye opener for the remaining septics: I'll say it here now, trump is a fascist, a pedophile, a narcissist, and a dictator. He will not leave. He will use putin's playbook. The rest of the world needs to wake up now and consider the US as an antagonist, same as Russia and China. I would be delighted to be wrong, wait and see I guess.

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[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 143 points 4 days ago (11 children)

So long as there's a proper primary I don't see the harm in this, not really. I can't see her running a good enough campaign to make it through the primaries, at least not without also having a good enough campaign to beat the fascist party after Trump.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 135 points 4 days ago (46 children)

the key here is “proper primary.” I can’t remember a time when they’ve had one that wasn’t fucked up in some way.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Three words: Hillary Rodham Clinton

It sure looked like Bernie was gonna kick her butt until the DNC decided they didn’t like a Democratic Socialist possibly winning. Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned for a reason.

I don’t trust the primaries to be fair. There is too much money and power at stake to let “the people” actually decide the candidates. To me it’s the major reason everyone says both parties are the same. It’s because both candidates are picked by the same people, at least at this level. Yes I know they aren’t the same, especially now. But have you ever noticed how feckless the Democratic leadership seems to be? It’s because the billionaires are really the ones in power.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 48 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just to terrify you a little bit. In the 2020 election, Harris and Biden only had one candidate that regularly polled worse than they did, which was a culty Tulsi. And if you remember, out of that large field, Biden won.

The DNC has a gigantically fat thumb on the scales.

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[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago
[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 81 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you fucking stupid? You lost to Donald Fucking Trump—you know, the racist, fascist pedophile rapist? You lost to that guy, and you'd be running against his specter and his legacy, the racist and xenophobic sentiments that still run deep in this country.

What is uniting the American people, however, is a rising class consciousness, not establishment Dems like you. We already tried voting for "not-Trump," and y'all squandered the opportunity to appease the wealthy, expand the police state, send more bombs to Israel, and treat all the people shouting "Danger!" like children, rather than securing our democracy and standing against genocide.

Fuck. Right. Off.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The Democrats need to learn that they need someone that doesn't come off like a "party person" if they want to attract voters. Kamala could have had that, but her refusal to burn Biden for his failures in office while on the campaign trail the last time did a lot of harm to her chances of ever escaping that image to the average swing voter. She is no more electable to the Presidency now than Hillary Clinton.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"It's time for change!"

"What are you going to do?!"

"The SAME THING!"

"Woooo!!!"

Seriously, who strategized this thing?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Democratic establishment is too far up their own asshole huffing their own farts to every listen to us lowly members of the American electorate. They see as ignorant whiny losers for daring to be upset about a horrible economy where the bottom 90% of the population is losing ground.

And all their financial donors agree with them. Kamala is the DEI candidate of their social justice wet dreams. If only she was trans she'd be a Triple Hat diversity hire! They don't care that American public doesn't care about any of that and just wants a likable candidate that actually addresses their concerns about the economy.

Trump lied but he told people he would fix shit, and they voted him in for it. It's not hard, but Democrats simple refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the American electorates grievances that fuel who their vote for. But Kamala refused to acknowledge things were shit because it would be 'disloyal' to Joe Biden... and let's not forget his dipshittery in saying he would not run again and then he wasted half the campaign year doing so...

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So far it's Harris and Newsom. Cool. Cool cool cool.

No, I'm not worried at all. Who said I'm worried?

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Oh hell naw

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I mean, she'd be better than Trump. But that's such a ridiculously low bar.

Surely the Dems can come up with a better candidate that her, Gavin Newsom, or some similarly uninspiring/greasy candidate. Right? Right???

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 40 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That isn't the question, the question is over whether the DNC and the ruling class allow any other candidate to run against Trump.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People that lose to Donald fucking Trump should fuck off forever.

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (9 children)

No. Just no. Other countries cn rise above misogyny, but not us. Dems need to drop this whole "please the right" schtick too. We need someone actually progressive, someone who doesn't ride the Israeli money train, and alas - is male. Bonus points for not playing the "we need to forgive and forget" card either. It didn't work, and a lot of these assholes are just regurgitating the South. They lost, but never faced punishment. If we let racism slide, we let them build confidence and organize.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 days ago (6 children)

They'll do everything but what will actually get them elected willingly. Neo-liberals need to wake up and realize it's either going to have progress away from capitalism or just all of us drowning in fascism because they refuse much needed and necessary change.

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[–] Hux@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago
[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (9 children)

People seem to have forgotten the only reason she was the candidate was because Biden dropped out and she was the VP.

She got practically no votes in the primaries.

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[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

can we just start chanting "fuck off" every time she appears in public?

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