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Please God Change the Image Gen Back (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 days ago by VileOnyx@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world
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The new version of the image generation is so incredibly garbage it's genuinely unusable. Instances of AI artifacting have multiplied exponentially, the system barely follows prompts, characters are jumbled messes of blurry features, it's awful. If it's an issue of expense, I would be willing to donate along with countless others if you took a collection. Please as a community we beg of you to change it back. I would be happy to pay for access to the better model, or a subscription for improved functionality, just anything but this.

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[–] Garth01@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think it's bad. I think the AI's results vary based on prompts. If you're extra detailed in your prompts then you will get good results. Otherwise, if you aren't too hyper specific, then you're going to get a bunch of junk images. The whole point of the AI image generator is to write good prompts.

Basically, good prompts = good results, bad prompts = bad results.

You don't have to write an entire paragraph. All you need to do is write what you want the AI to generate, preferably either in a list format like this:

Caucasian female, brown hair, green eyes, wearing a blue dress, sitting on a bench at a park, holding a parasol

Or as a character description, like this:

A Caucasian female with brown hair and green eyes wearing a blue dress sitting on a bench at a park and holding a parasol

Of course, results vary as the AI's outputs tend to be randomized, but as long as you write good prompts, you won't get bad images. Hope this helped.

[–] TURBOOO@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Haha countless others.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

so incredibly garbage it’s genuinely unusable

I take it this is that famous "constructive feedback" I keep hearing about? :)

Image generation is fine; revise your prompts. I can help you with it, if you like, long as it's PG-13 (else sorry but nope).

Or better yet, check the galleries and steal some ideas, that works too. Sometimes there's rather nice-looking stuff posted on the default gen (this one).

Instances of AI artifacting have multiplied exponentially, the system barely follows prompts, characters are jumbled messes of blurry features, it’s awful.

I go from looking at what other people are making as well as my own experience, for what it's worth, and I cannot see your statement as anything other than hyperbole, if not outright fiction. Sorry.

I would be happy to pay for access to the better model, or a subscription for improved functionality, just anything but this.

Facepalms echo across the galaxy!

Even if we ignored the implicit question -- would you even still be here -- you'd nevertheless shoot yourself in the foot with this one. What we have now is better AND we have access to it for free, yet people ask for a subscription on top of a downgrade! How about NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???

Look, I don't know. I get the feeling that you have not put the slightest effort in trying to learn how to prompt effectively, because if you had, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Or put more succinctly:

Meant only as a friendly poke, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Anyway, assuming I haven't yet antagonized every fiber of your being, my offer is honest, so you tell me if you need help.

OK byeeee :D

[–] VileOnyx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm using the exact same generator that I've always used. I work with AI every day, and I've changed my prompting strategies multiple times throughout this change to try to give the engine the benefit of the doubt.

"Digital illustration with a painterly, tumblr webcomic look. It blends anime-influenced character design with Western indie-cartoon expressiveness. Shading is a hybrid of cel and soft airbrush. Planes are defined by clear shadow shapes, then feathered with soft brushes. Unique photo-quality visuals in high definition.

A man with pale skin, black hair, and fangs dressed in a stylish late 2000s outfit consisting of an open leather jacket over a white tank top, silver facial piercings, and black skinny jeans. He is wielding a glaive that emits a smoky, silver aura from its blade. He is standing on a stage, surrounded by a crowd of thousands.

Closeup of the character with visible facial features, composition matches that of late 2010s era tumblr art posts. Serious, non-cartoonish features."

Is my exact prompt. It's on par with many other prompts I had been using before, now adapted to the new scheme which relies less on negative prompting and () emphasis indication. I pretty distinctly ask for something specific, and define the parameters for that exactly. I state directly that the image should not have exaggerated cartoonish features, and yet I get this fucking slop.

I can't use any of these images. No combination of prompting principles seems to fix this issue. If you genuinely think that is better than this series I was able to make with the previous generator:

You are genuinely mentally deficient. Your "help" would change nothing.

Edit: One of the site admins also directly posted that the image generator is empirically downgraded for the time being because the text model is taking up financial resources while they debug it. My, and many others' offer is genuine. If the site needs more money, I'd be happy to provide some for the same quality I'd been getting before as quite frankly, there was nothing else good out there for non-scam prices. This site has a genuine interest in generative media and I'd love to support it. Even if it's just a donation link. So, kindly shut your fucking mouth.

Double Edit: Inb4 you say some shit about "OH WELL YOU HAVE THE WORD CARTOON IN YOUR PROMPT" western-cartoon indie is an art style. One which doesn't necessarily have the proportions of cartoon characters, but rather defined by solid colors, hard lines, and complex character design with a few defining traits for each character. Think like Avatar: the Last Airbender. That would be an example of the style. But just to make sure you understand how little that matters, I did another generation omitting that entirely in favor of defining the facets of the style one-by-one. Here was the results:

Still cartoony, warped, barely recognizable slop.

[–] TURBOOO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Where is the official admin post please.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are genuinely mentally deficient

Yet it's you struggling with the basics, so what does that make you? :)

Seethe more. Your stratagem is next level:

  1. Write a mediocre-ass prompt
  2. Results are not what you want
  3. Blame the model
  4. Reject any help
  5. ??
  6. Profit

Absolutely flawless; I have never contended with such an imposing intellect.

I'm not at all surprised by your prompt being garbage, nor the results it generates being garbage themselves -- I had already anticipated the direct, causal relationship between both of these facts, hence the offer of assistance.

But since you insist on not needing any help, guess I'm not gonna give you any :D let me know if you change your mind, sweetie.

One of the site admins also directly posted that the image generator is empirically downgraded for the time being because the text model is taking up financial resources while they debug it.

That was back in August, and the text gen was deployed sometime around September, if memory serves right. Quality has improved considerably since then.

The idea that the latest change is some sort of cost-saving measure is an unsubstantiated rumor, far as I'm aware, and it doesn't quite hold up to scrutiny given how the lot of us prompt engineering nerds are getting far better results with this -- unlike you folks rioting about it, as you do.

Now, we do need clarification on whether slapping us in the face with a subscription model counts as a valid trigger for "use a darkweb cypto market to send assassins after me if I ever do this", as indicated in the FAQ, under "Will you ever sell Perchance?", but for the time being I will go with my gut feeling and assume that adding a subscription model would be, indeed, a sign of Perchance selling out to some evil corpo.

But that's just never going happen, it strikes me as antithetical to what Perchance is. That is to say you're just barking up the wrong tree here.

So, kindly shut your fucking mouth.

Nope. Kiss my ass ^^

[–] Garth01@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are you breaking the rules of Perchance forum? Swearing is against the rules and I will have to report this comment alongside everyone else who swears here.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Why are you breaking the rules of Perchance forum?

Cause of my hops

[–] agracier@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm really sorry, but the generator is degraded. Images tends towards the cartoonish, anime or manga, really junky imaging that can done on any run-of-the-mill AI generator. Used to be before, you could make wonderful artistic images in an academic, Art Deco, vintage, beaux-Arts, representational art style, like Norman Rockwell covers or pulp fiction covers. Now it is virtually impossible to get that done. The default always pushes back towards cartoonish, childish stuff, big heads, large eyes, narrow waists on people.

This is so sad. Especially with all the months and months of work put into experimenting with and trying out prompts. Now you can get a good working prompt and two days later it produces lousy images. Can't be counted to work again. And all the work, time and effort put into making hundreds of good working prompts is all down the drain. And I surmise that when** yet another upgrade** is introduced, any prompts that work well now, will also end up being useless. Constant unasked for change ruins good things.

Yes, I too would be willing to pay IF the older model were reintroduced, the model prior to Jan 2026.

[–] TURBOOO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes too much cartoonish images and a white blank background.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m really sorry

I know you are :)

Images tends towards the cartoonish, anime or manga, really junky imaging that can done on any run-of-the-mill AI generator.

The literal hundreds, if not thousands, of photos and paintings being generated every day would beg to differ. You can see the galleries if you don't believe me, eh.

Used to be before, you could make wonderful artistic images in an academic, Art Deco, vintage, beaux-Arts, representational art style, like Norman Rockwell covers or pulp fiction covers.

I pasted this exact quote here as a jest and what it gave me was close enough, so this is clearly moreso a matter of "minimal effort required" than "virtually impossible".

The default always pushes back towards cartoonish, childish stuff, big heads, large eyes, narrow waists on people.

Skill issue.

This is so sad (...)

Dramatic!

Adjusting the bulk of my prompts took me two, three days tops. Meanwhile, you're still here going on about how your old stuff no longer works. It's already been two months.

Just what are you even doing?

Yes, I too would be willing to pay

OK go throw money at something ^^

[–] agracier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Could you point me to the galleries? I cannot find a link. Just as I cannot find the negative prompt space either. Things keep changing for no discernible reason.

[–] agracier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you get totally different results with the same prompt a day or two later, it is NOT a skill issue. It is an issue with consistency and never ending changes and updates. Enough people have commented on how results always tend towards cartoonish looking images, no matter what the prompt. The generator was magnificent from Aug 2025 to jan 2026. Then the update which was a downgrade and it is like wading through molasses to get anything like the previous results. If you want cartoonish, anime, manga or simplistic results, the new version probably doesn't make much difference. But serious artistic imaging, realistic, academic, beaux arts, art deco, bauhaus, representational art is now out of the picture. A real shame.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it is NOT a skill issue

So you say! :)

never ending changes and updates

There was one update two months ago, and that's "never ending" changes apparently.

Come on, you don't even have a point here.

Enough people have commented on how results always tend towards cartoonish looking images, no matter what the prompt.

Given how OP was literally trying to generate cartoons and then complaining about the result being a cartoon -- flawless logic -- I don't think that comments give us much to work with here.

I had some instances of actually unsolicited cartoon generation back in January; the issue is already gone for me. I think this was one of the things Dev addressed with one of the earlier fixes, though I'm not entirely sure.

But serious artistic imaging, realistic, academic, beaux arts, art deco, bauhaus, representational art is now out of the picture. A real shame.

Yes, yes, you continue repeating this line over and over; we get it, you're a pretentious slop-maker, no need to keep reminding us.

But most of what I generate is artistic imaging, generally paintings and photographs, and what I am getting now is much higher quality than before January. So what are you going on about?

This is not your word against mine, this is your word against the pictures everybody else is posting. On that topic:

Could you point me to the galleries? I cannot find a link.

Generate a few images if you haven't, then scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the big button labeled "💬 show comments & gallery 🖼️"

Just as I cannot find the negative prompt space either. Things keep changing for no discernible reason.

Not quite, because the show gallery button has always been there, and then the anti-description box was removed because for the longest time negative prompts did absolutely nothing.

If all you're going to do here is find any silly excuse to complain, at the very least have the decency to come up with a valid excuse.

[–] agracier@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've made some 10s of thousands of non-cartoonish renders since June of 2025, in the traditional art styles that I prefer and that you think of as 'slop'. That was something no other AI platform could do that I know of. The results were wonderful. No cartoons, no anime, no manga if that was not what you were trying to do. And I wasn't nor ever will.

Cartoon render platforms are everywhere. In the galleries there isn't one image that I have found that has appeal (I stopped looking after a minute or two. They are all the same).

The question remains the same: used to be that the platform allowed rendering of images that were quality-wise miles above other platforms and in truly serious historically significant artistic styles. Why downgrade the quality? Perchance was unique in that ability.

I am not alone in this. That should be apparent from other comments.

And as others have written, if it is a question of finance (as so much is) to get that quality back to how it was, I would be willing to pay. Because it was so unique before this latest version.

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’ve made some 10s of thousands of non-cartoonish renders since June of 2025, in the traditional art styles that I prefer and that you think of as ‘slop’.

"slop" is currently used as a catch-all term for AI generated content, so by all means, we are making slop. Own it.

Why downgrade the quality?

Why would you build your entire posture around opposing updates altogether and then ask for a rollback on top of a fee, instead of providing concrete examples and references of how your input is being misinterpreted so that the Dev can maybe try and fix it?

¯\(ツ)/¯

Effort, perhaps. Artsy slop isn't impossible to achieve, as you claim, you just have to tinker a bit. It is true that some looks are harder to achieve than others, but number one that's always been the case, and two, truly impossible styles are few and far between. Pulp fiction covers is definitely not one of them.

So if I had to take a guess, I'd say you have the CFG turned all the way up and that's what's causing 90% of your problems, yet you're out here blaming the tool. Take this:

(guidanceScale:::1)

And put it somewhere on your prompt. For anything that's supposed to look like a painting, using values between 1 and 5 will typically give you the more natural-looking results, whereas taking it higher will result in a more polished, artificial and plastic look, reminescent of the evil cartoons that haunt your dreams.

Try it. Play around. Assume your prompt is bad. Report your findings. And ask for help before launching another drama series about your beautiful collection of 10s of thousands of slop images in a serious, academic, representational art avec des croissants style. ( ~_~)

[–] TURBOOO@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did the text to image generator add the text in your image or you edited it??

[–] Almaumbria@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Done entirely with the generator I linked.