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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bringing back the trauma of Breath of the Wild where melee weapons break after a few hits.

[–] SlinkyBlack@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the main reason I didnt bother with tears of the kingdom

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago (17 children)

In real life they're mounted to vehicles.

AFAIK, you can thank the 1987 movie Predator for the idea that someone could walk around with a minigun as a personal weapon

Now I'm going to have to go watch that movie again. Not only was it so influential that it introduced the idea of miniguns as human-portable weapons to games, it's the source of this meme and what's not to love about a movie with Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Carl Weathers.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

So many games and movies ignore both the weight of the ammunition required to fire one of those things for more than 3 seconds, and the weight of the batteries required to spin the barrels. You would need more than even a power-suit, you would need some kind of frame on self powered wheels... a "vehicle" of some kind.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Technically, it could be done. Someone did the math from the scene in the movie Predator. He could carry a weapon that heavy, including the ammo and batteries. It would be about 40kg for the gun and 25kg for the ammo. That's very high, but not absurd, as long as he's carrying almost nothing else. It could fire for 45s without running dry. And if you limited it to reasonable bursts of say 3s, that ammo would last a while.

It's not practical, but it's possible.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of the weapons in Breath of the Wild. You can easily break several in a single fight.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

TIL, that rotary machines guns spin to cool down.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's more that using multiple barrels keeps any one barrel from heating up too quickly, and it's easier to have multiple barrels than entire firing assemblies.

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[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Uh, what did you think the rotary barrels were for?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

...more barrel = more bullet? 🥴

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

something something technically correct something

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] excral@feddit.org 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's the same for weapon ranges. Assault rifles have an effective range of more than 300m IRL, but it's commonly less than 100m in video games

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah also, real life, you’re not shooting 300 m very often. Your rifle may be capable of it, you’re not. With any real effect anyway.

Source: former infantryman

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is it a matter of stopping power or of precision?

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Precision. It’s really hard to see anything at 300m with the eyes. You can’t shoot what you can’t see. You very rarely have clear sight lines out that far, and even when you do, it’s hard to put anything on a human sized target that far.

At 300 m the naked eye sees a person as about the size of a grain of rice.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s not impossible. I used to bullseye Womp Rats in my T-16 back home.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Never said it’s impossible. You just won’t do it. A standard (American army) infantryman has a red dot. Non magnified. With adrenaline, moving targets, trying to not die, you will not be effective at that range.

You can use overwhelming volume to suppress, but, realistically, you’re going to close the distance. In a straight up infantry on infantry engagement anyway, which is a rarity.

Edit: just realized the Star Wars reference lmfao my bad

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a matter of skill. Carlos hathcock used a .50 machine gun to snipe people in Vietnam. I hit individual targets at 500m with a 249 on a single shot with iron sights.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Range data isn’t a flex, pog.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What'd you get on your asvab? Drool? In asymmetric warfare being a window licker doesn't mean you saw much more than anyone else unless they never left the fob.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
  1. At the end of the day, I’m not in here telling you how to do intel, don’t tell me how to do what I did.
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

To your point about ASVABs, that’s the exact reason an average infantryman isn’t effective. I wasn’t sure some people could tie their own shoes, let alone handle a rifle.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wrong. I easily shot 500m on a 249 single shot on iron sights.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah? Of course, a 249 is a different beast. I’m talking about the average infantryman, M4, red dot. Sure, it’s not the hardest shots in the world, the average infantryman, just isn’t very combat effective there.

Edit: stationed at Gordon tells me you’re not infantry.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Shotguns are also nerfed in games with respect to their effective range.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you have a minigun and not enough enemies on screen not to need it running constantly, you're doing it wrong.

Or better, dual miniguns.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Tbf even the gau-8 used by the A-10 warthog only has 18 seconds of brrrrrrt. So if anything carryable could last 5 seconds, you'd basically be out of ammo anyways. It's a way of making it "realistic" without limiting you to the point of making it worthless. Which in reality, in any extended engagement, a ground mini-gun is absolutely worthless. No one person by themselves could use that gun effectively against more than ~10-15 people and only in VERY specific situations. Only in a kamikaze rush would it be of any value. I'd take 3 marksmen with bolt action rifles and iron sights over one dude on foot with a mini-gun all day, every day.

Mini-guns are very, very good in specific applications, but absolutely worthless in others. But it's fun in a video game to weird. It'd be unrealistic and OP to carry with enough ammo to make it useful outside of fallout power armor, or a full mech.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I guess that if I was trying to make realistic game, I would give the player multiple lives. Each mission, there is a large number of friendly troops trying to advance through each area. Whenever the player dies, they swap into one of the surviving soldiers. The game is over if the troops run dry. This allows us to have each and every weapon on the field be fully effective for both sides.

There are a lot of difficulties with this, since traditional game design doesn't account for a massive number of characters. It would probably be best to make a mod for Arma III and playtest the concept with D-Day and other operations.

It would be kinda like the isometric Army Men games or Cannon Fodder, but from a FPS perspective.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is sort of how Battlefield, Battlefront, and Helldivers 2 work, but you play as an incoming reinforcement, not someone already on the field.

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[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Realism" and "Man portable minigun without support battery and backpack"

To make the gun light enough for your character to handle it the barrels are made of aluminium foil.

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

For real. Complaining about the realism of a trope sparked by a T-800 ripping the minigun off of a helicopter due to superhuman strength is more than a little silly.

Ohp. Actually, it looks like Castle Wolfenstein did it first. Still, silly.

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