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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 227 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Any non Google phone running graphene would be epic.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 2 weeks ago

Having a vendor explicitly supporting it...epic is an understatement.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had completely forgotten Lenovo bought Motorola from Google some 10 years ago. Honestly haven't seen a Motorola phone in at least that long ...

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

Been using motorola for a long time. I bought Moto Z in 2016 and it booted with "Motorola company" text in the end of the boot video. After Lenovo acquisition, phone updated and video now said "Motorola, a Lenovo company".

Thankfully, Motorola haven't entshittified over these years. Still a solid phone. Almost no bloat.

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 138 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is great news. While I still think we should make a push towards Linux phones being mainstream so that we don’t keep this duopoly on OSes, it’s nice to know that at least one manufacturer is currently defying googles obvious goal of suppressing third party ROMs and marketplaces.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Volla phone (has choice between ubuntu touch and android rom) seems pretty cool.

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[–] chicocheco@lemmy.world 112 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They spotted an opportunity

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Good. Now if only they could make the Edge+ with the same relative spec sheet and ditch the curved glass in 2027. I'd buy it in a heartbeat for Graphene. My next phone WAS going to be a Pixel for the broader case/screen protector support, but that would make me reconsider cause I would really miss the chop chop flashlight.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 101 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

maybe my next phone will be a Motorola.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My last few phones have been Motorolas and I've been very very happy with them.

My only issue was that back then, I wasn't really paying attention to alternative OSs like Graphene, Lineage or e/os and was therefore not really too concerned with ROM support/chip set. When I switched over to e/os, two of my Motorola's (including the one I WANT to use with it) has no ROM support because it's running a Mediatek chipset. So I'm using my second to last one while my nice new one collects dust.

Moving forward I'll be paying more attention to Qualcomm vs Mediatek.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Me too. I've always bought Google Pixels but I don't want to give Google my money anymore.

So I'll probably buy a Motorola if this deal gets through.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 84 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If I can get GrapheneOS + headphone jack + SD card slot, I am in.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd add "less than 15cm tall" too. I've had enough of stupid giant phones that don't fit in pockets and where you can't even reach the top or other side with your thumb.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

I'd really like a removable battery as well.

[–] LunaChocken@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

SD slot would be great. Fuck every major company getting rid of it, so you have to use their cloud provider.

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[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago

+1 for the headphone jack

[–] angelmountain@lemy.nl 56 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

But how are they going to include useless "uninstallable" apps and advertisements?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 164 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Grapheneos is a pretty attractive selling point for a phone. They could even make money the old fashioned way: by selling phones.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 20 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Probably they will not support it for budget phones

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 45 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Well, fuck. I really hoped they would pick FairPhone. Motorola is... Okay. I guess they made the Nexus 5 ; which was one of the best phones ever.

I hope they make a SMALL one, I am so tired of this GIGANTIC pixel 9.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

Fairphone isn’t available everywhere while Motorola is. It’s pretty easy to understand why they chose them.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Motorola gets a little bit of love from me because they were (maybe still are?) the only ones who allowed me to shout "COMRADE MOTO!" to wake my phone up

I will not say "Hey Google" in a million years. I refuse.

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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Let's see if it gets released before GrapheneOS and unlockable bootloader get outlawed

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Android seems intent on creating a huge market for this. Chef's kiss!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I actually bought a new Motorola phone 2 months ago precisely because i wanted a phone with an unlockable bootloader, and motorola delivered that.

Vote with your wallet.

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[–] trewq@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll buy if decent specs and price good

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I solely need camera, contactless payments and projection for cars. If it is capable of these I am pre ordering.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Contactless payment will not happen under grapheneOS, it relies on google play services and integrity check. Graphene does have sandboxed play services, but it doesn't pass integrity check.

[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not true. Google Pay (or Wallet?) doesn't work on GrapheneOS. NFC and contactless payments work perfectly fine. You can use Curve Pay or in Poland BLIK via bank apps.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Something like that is what I've been waiting for a long time for. Really looking forward to it.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

My biggest concern is the life cycle of the device. I almost went with Motorola for my last phone, but saw that you were lucky to get 3 years of OS updates. Is that likely to be better on GrapheneOS? If so, that is a huge win imo. If not, it still isn't ideal because I don't want to have to buy a new phone every 2 years...

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[–] GMac@feddit.org 27 points 2 weeks ago

Moto flip phone with GOS? sign me up. Should not have to choose between form factor and operating system.

[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking finally. Please be a Qualcomm chip.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

a future smartphone to have GrapheneOS pre-installed

I'll not trust Lenovo (Motorola is Lenovo) preinstalling stuff on my phone. They've already ship Windows laptop with literally malware and backdoors (even in UEFI, so persistent across format) preinstalled.

I will rather install it myself.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fully agree on that. Always better to start fully fresh, even without such problems.

That said, it's still important that it will ship pre-installed. That way app-developers who block GrapheneOS cannot excuse their actions anymore by saying that it was your decision to use another OS, and therefore not their problem.

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That's nice, but how much will those phones cost? Will GrapheneOS be an option on the low end devices or will they only support "some" devices, which happen cost as much as a Pixel anyway?

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[–] stebator@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While the Motorola/GrapheneOS news is interesting, it's a shame that GrapheneOS's lack of root access continues to be a significant limitation. For users who prioritize data ownership and the ability to create full, local backups (Swift Backup being a prime example), it's simply not a viable option. Security is important, but so is control over your own data.

[–] elver@feddit.uk 16 points 2 weeks ago

Have you seen the "Shizuku" app? It utilises the debugging api to give some extra permissions that regular apps wouldn't usually get. Works on GrapheneOS and can give SwiftBackup a lot more power on devices that can't grant root access. You might find you don't need full rooting.

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

All my phones have been Motorola, the first one was the Moto X - OG !

Very well built and great batteries. Quality phones with close to stock UI for a snappy experience. Love the Moto Actions as well.

Only negatives were updates and cameras. Both are much better these days.

Especially now with an upcoming OS alternative!

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