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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I solely need camera, contactless payments and projection for cars. If it is capable of these I am pre ordering.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Contactless payment will not happen under grapheneOS, it relies on google play services and integrity check. Graphene does have sandboxed play services, but it doesn't pass integrity check.

[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not true. Google Pay (or Wallet?) doesn't work on GrapheneOS. NFC and contactless payments work perfectly fine. You can use Curve Pay or in Poland BLIK via bank apps.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OK, none of these are supported where I live...so YMMV

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

As much as I hate PayPal, this is probably your only option for NFC payments on GrapheneOS then

[–] ibot@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Contactless payments does not need to be Google Pay. There are alternatives.

[–] jode@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What are those alternatives...?

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

Gaël Duval, the lead developer behind /e/OS, has been recommending an app called Zettle on his blog. It at least work on degoogled /e/OS, probably GrapheneOS as well. I have no personal experience as I prefer sticking to cards.

[–] ibot@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

The most famous one is probably PayPal. But I assume for people who are privacy focused, that would be not the first choice.

There is Curve Pay, but I know nothing about it besides the fact that it exists.

Samsung Pay exists, but it only works on Samsung devices and therefore is not really an alternative in this case.

And then there are some regional options. Here in Germany are same banks that offer their own payment apps, most famously the Sparkassen. I heard there are also some Indian and east Asian payment apps, but I don't know much about them.

[–] vodka@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Using contactless nfc payment on my grapheneos phone almost daily.

Just not Google Wallet.

[–] torubrx@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What are you using? It's the only google thing I haven't been able to terminate (and play services, for now)

[–] vodka@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

In a lot of European countries there are local payment apps that work as alternatives. Some banks even have payment support in their own apps.

Check your local market for alternatives, though if your market is the US then there probably isn't any.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

GooglePay does Graphene is very capable of contactless payment.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s a deal breaker for me, I haven’t carried a physical card of any sort in years.

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same here, and unfortunately there is no digital wallet providers in my country other than Google Pay, Samsung Pay and Apple Pay.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Curve pay allows the creation of a card linked to a bank card

[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

I think he means the equivalent of car play.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Android auto equivalent.

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Does GrapheneOS support Google Pay?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably not if it depends on Google Pain Services?

[–] dracs@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's the other way around. Google specifically blocks Goodlgle Pay being used on GrapheneOS. I believe there's another contactless payment app called Curve or something that works on GrapheneOS. Requires Google Play Services installed though.

[–] vodka@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

No.

But third party payment apps might work. I'm using one for contactless payments and it works just fine.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yup, it uses a sandboxed version that you can control.

Edit: Fuck me...it's early and my dyslexic ass read "play" not pay.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

It supports google play services, but google pay does not work on graphene.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No but nfc is present and nfc contactless pay works if your banking app has it native in their app. Curve pay is a good workaround.