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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they'll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don't want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

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[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wow good job Spain.

I guess this works because email doesn't exist.

I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don't exist.

I guess this works because VPN's free and paid don't exist.

I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don't exist.

I guess this works because torrenting doesn't exist.

I guess this works because black markets don't exist.

I guess this works because chat applications don't exist.

To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So teens learn about Tor & VPNs. This stuff doesn't work. The higher you put the skills to get access, the more they will learn. Nothing motivates teens more than access to adult stuff. Maybe this is really a tech literacy policy.

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yup, all you're doing is teaching them to cover their tracks

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

A generation of privacy savvy citizens doesn't sound bad.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Learning to circumvent my parent's fumbling attempts to keep me off of early nineties bulletin board porn made me the man I am today.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Much easier just to go to sketchy websites than learn how to hide your traffic

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Or, just as likely, go to the sketchy VPNs from the first Play Store results.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

"Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits."

Well that's a relief. For a minute there, I was worried.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

On the plus side Spains teenagers are about to become extremely computer literate.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They made this to send people from legal sites to illegal sites.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.

Making sure your kids don't go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.

Not the fucking state.

And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I've ever seen.

[–] RedStrawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly! Government granted 'porn credits' sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea...

Porn "Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits" is one wild sentence.

A porn "enthusiast", requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?

[–] alm@awful.systems 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Souyo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

Folks, this is not about the porn.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

This government intrusion is brought to you by Surfshark.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kids can torrent my dude. Been doing it since I was like 13, and that's only because before that I was using limewire, then frostwire, then bearshare, then I found torrents because TPB took over. I've been pirating since I was like 9.

That is to say: This dumb ass bullshit isn't even going to work.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I come from a state that has officially mandated that porn websites must verify your age to use them for years. There were many websites that just didn’t give a fuck. X videos in particular. They do now require you to hit a button saying “I’m 18” to process, but I think my point stands.

These laws do nothing, really.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On behalf of teen me and adult me, fuck off

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 11 months ago

Aren't teens adults?

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I wish they would just push all the big mainstream porn sites to remove the most abusive misogynistic content rather than slapping these checks on everything.

Also this will never be okay until there is a zero knowledge version that means neither the government, nor the sites, nor any other party can establish a given person's habits which is probably not something they'll ever do because tracking is probably part of the point.

I'm not a fan of the easy access to porn that kids have or the proliferation of the industry in general but I am worried that as part of this harmless things like erotic roleplaying websites will be swept up as part of it and well I use those. And their point is not porn though some people host and share porn as part of it (which is why it'd get swept up with it eventually probably), it's about writing, smutty, erotic writing. And I'd rather not have to tie my identity to my desires to roleplay out an elf who ends up making “friends” with the wolf-men tribe to my real life identity (I'm not claiming that's something I do there but it's an example of something that would be kind of embarrassing for others to know and it's far from the weirdest stuff that goes on in places like that).

Government having credits for how often I could say log in and continue a long-term erotic writing campaign with someone is just weird but that's the end point of this kind of thing. Having credits seems not helpful anyways, the true porn addicts are just going to download stuff then share it in private forums, discords, p2p, etc. If the point is to stop kids from accessing this the credits thing seems odd.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol most porn is made in the US. How is Spain supposed to regulate US porn streaming companies showing content filmed and distributed by US companies?