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I was pretty sick the first time I saw this episode as a teen - all I really remember is they stepped onscreen in those outfits and I spent the next five minutes laughing so hard I started coughing up blood then passed out. My god, the costume design on this one still brings a tear to my eye, what were they thinking.
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"Gene Roddenberry was a sex pest for making women wear miniskirts."
meanwhile ^ ^ ^ ^
And v v v v
I fucking want that uniform
The only thing stopping you is money
I bet a good dry cleaner could do it for 200.
Okay let's be real we're all getting the velour upgrade. It's real velour, kif!
Planet moose knuckle
I am wheezing, thank you for this.
I don't know, it's gonna be pretty hard to milk a rock, no matter how many nipples you got.
I grew up watching TNG with my dad. He had the same reaction. Well, minus the blood.
I had the exact same reaction except none of the laughing and all the blood.
It's a very Roddenberry design.
Dark Matter is how you get evil Wesley.
(Wil Wheaton played an evil space tech bro.)
What is this image from?
Star Trek Online
Oh, okay thanks!
Np.
I mean, it's possible they also made a live action movie out of the same plot, but I'm not sure. Haven't come across it so far, though Axanar and Renegades show up from time to time.
It's straight bonkers where they take this plot...
spoiler
In the Mirror Universe, the Terran Empire has regained it's footing and a galactic power again, led by Admiral Leeta (which I'm still wrapping my head around since the Terran Empire was shown to be very xenophobic). A Terran strike force lead by by Marshall Janeway and a time displace Captain Tilly "Killy" launch a surprise attack on Jupiter Station in search of The Emperor's Prize, which turns out to be Ilia. The Emperor is none other than Wesley who has used his immense intellect to ascend to the throne. He wanted Ilia to track down the mirror version of V'Ger; C'qer (pronounced Seeker, the ConQuERor VI probe. also referred to as The Other). Emperor Wesley plans to merge with The Other to ascend to godhood, and conquer the Prime universe. He starts by "digitizing" most of our solar system in the prime universe against a combined alliance of Starfleet, Klingons, the Romulan Republic, the Dominion, Cardassian Union, and some specific STO factions. Thanks to Ilia, V'Ger returns to the Sol System to aid, and you battle powered Wesley at the core until Bev gets in his head and talks him down. Then V'Ger & C'Qer, along with Ilia and Wesley go exploring and return all digitized planets and ships to normal space.
What's with the hate Wesley gets? I didn't find his character to be detestable. At least not as much as the ferengi ds9 kid.
Both Wesley and Nog started out with rough writing. Once their characters build out, they improve. Nog moreso, being part of a serialized show.
Having watched TNG without being influenced by the community. I agree that his character starts pretty obnoxious, but I always got the sense that the point of his character was that his inclusion on the ship as a kid raised by this future world was just as "alien" as Data or Worf. Then again, it was also obvious that he occasionally got completely brain bonked for some episodes in order to make him the naive child of the group.
I see it this way too now. "What does this culture do with this situation?" - and all jokes aside, pretty good chance some of the answers to that snuck in subliminally, that influences how I parent. Haven't watched too much in 20+ years, but it's there.
But yeah nonetheless, I do understand the annoyance folks have with the lad.
What's with the hate Wesley gets?
I don't hate Wesley, I just love to laugh at how bad Picard and Wesley's relationship is in season one.
In early episodes of any show, there's stuff that doesn't turn out to work for the characters.
But Picard/Wesley is such a bold dynamic that doesn't work for either character, never gets resolved, and goes nowhere.
Then later, it gets retroactivelymuch weirder, because the show "Picard" 100% confirms that Picard was sleeping with Wesley's mother, at some point, and by implication, even during their uncomfortable season 1.
So Picard, already an absolute picture of calm reasoned negotiation - just sometimes randomly goes off on one young cadet whose mother he happens to be banging.
It's weird. It doesn't make any sense in the broader later canon, and it makes me laugh every time I think about it.
That's an excellent question. I wonder if it has something to do with your age when you first saw the series, or maybe the problem that adult writers tend to not write kids very well. I bet at least part of it is that Picard himself treats Wesley pretty poorly in several episodes. Oh, and the fact that he solves the problem of the week ludicrously easily a couple of times, in a Gary Stu sort of way.
Wesley was a Mary Sue. The writers of Star Trek should've been able to avoid that trope given the original Mary Sue was a character in a Star Trek fanfic.
Why the hell is a kid at the helm Starship? Apparently because "he's a genius". Someone piloting an airliner has to have many many hours of experiencing before they're allowed to do that, but apparently in the future you just have to be a smart kid, experience doesn't matter?
And yeah he solves the problems adults can't figure out. It's this weird thing where writers think they need a kid in something so kids will like it. And even better yet, a kid that's smarter than the adults! It winds up just annoying everyone.
The internet hating on Wil Wheaton / Wesley Crusher is such an old bit that it has its own momentum and is no longer rooted in anything. Picard yelling “shut up Wesley” is such a meme that people shout this at Mr. Wheaton in public. He’s written about it a lot.
But it is also true that his character was an odd fit: very on-again / off-again as a member of the cast, poorly costumed, and deliberately written as a kind of whiny genius-boy who gets in trouble but always saves the day. Some people found this one of the less enjoyable parts of the show.
Im on Season 6 of my once a decade rewatch. They’ve still not hooked up. Jean Luc is running around with Vash. Bev had her ambassador until the trill half died. Meanwhile, these guys have breakfast together, dance around the possibility of a together, and that is all.
They definitely hook up somewhere around the time this occurs:
Jack Crusher being the result. No explanation as to why a kid in his early 20's looks like he's pushing 35 by Picard season 3.
"However, we might make an exception since he was unaware of..."
"No, no, rules are rules!"
"honestly Captain it was obviously just a misunderstanding Wesley is free to-"
Ppssffshhhzap
"Rules sir, are rules"
it’s going to be very hard to romance Beverly while she’s grieving
No, this cannot stand!
That's the same episode Wesley was encouraged to go run off and play with the other "children" with hair on their chests.
and he accidentally fell on some ornamental plants, the locals wanted him executed.
Prime directive yada yada yada bye Wesley
I just realized that this episode is basically the more dramatic (and more horny) version of that Parks & Rec episode with Fred Armisen.
Straight to lethal injection. No trial, no nothing. We have the best flower beds. Because of lethal injection.
Is it the color-grading, or is that man VERY sunburned?
Just saw it now for the first time. I think he was sunburned.
I really liked this episode.
It is a great philosophical thought experiment: What if a perfect paradise existed, where everyone and everything is perfect. But only one type of punishment: the death penalty.
Would you want to live there?
No, because any place like that cannot be a perfect paradise.
