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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, the sellout.

[–] grapefruittrouble@lemmy.zip 57 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

From reading all the comments from the community, it’s amazing (yet not surprising) that all these managers have fallen for the marketing of all these LLMs. These LLMs have gotten people from all levels of society to just accept the marketing without ever considering the actual results for their use cases. It’s almost like the sycophant nature of all LLMs has completely blinded people from being rational just because it is shiny and it spoke to them in a way no one has in years.

On the surface level, LLMs are cool no doubt, they do have some uses. But past that everyone needs to accept their limitations. LLMs by nature can not operate the same as a human brain. AGI is such a long shot because of this and it’s a scam that LLMs are being marketed as AGI. How can we attempt to recreate the human brain into AGI when we are not close to mapping out how our brains work in a way to translate that into code, let alone other more simple brains in the animal kingdom.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think LLMs will become AGI, but... planes don't fly by flapping their wings. We don't necessarily need to know how animal brains work to achieve AGI, and it doesn't necessarily have to work anything like animal brains. It's quite possible if/when AGI is achieved, it will be completely alien.

[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago

Aircraft wings operate on pretty much the same principle as bird wings do. We just used a technology we had already developed (fans, essentially) to create the forward movement necessary to create the airflow over the wings for lift. We know how to do it the bird way too, but restrictions in material science at scale make the fan method far easier and less error prone.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I can’t wait until billionaires realize how worthless they actually are without people doing everything for them

Very few billionaires built from their own effort. Authors and Musicians? The guy who made Minecraft? Khaby Lame?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We can't to wait for them to realize this themselves. We need to demonstrate this by actively creating a society which excludes them.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes we should start arresting them and when they flee to Israel we sanction and embargo it with every country on earth

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

its either israel, the uk, or RUSSIA. trump is going to russia.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Might be a minute. The brain damage that lets them think they've "earned" those billions kinda hides the work of others. Especially the poors.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Yep they’re definitely mentally ill

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Eh, as the world goes to shit there will always be desperate people willing to work for them, probably cheaper than before even with the AI failures, so they wouldn't care.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

up until they stop paying them, once they are in thier bunkers, islands, the "servents" will feast,.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They will never realize that, they will blame any failures on others naturally. They truly believe they are better than everyone else, that their superior ability led them to invest in a company that increased in value enough for them to become filthy rich.

Surrounded by yes men and woman that agree with everything they say and tell them what a genius they are. Of course any ill outcome isn't their fault.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 10 hours ago

"All my successes are thanks to my superior intellect and skill! All my failures are the fault of bad serfs who didn't follow my vision!" - Every billionaire

When you think about it, it's not too different from how some people treat the current crop of AI, so it makes sense that they're so hypnotized by the promises.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 76 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I had a meeting with my boss today about my AI usage. I said I tried using Claude 4.5, and I was ultimately unimpressed with the results, the code was heavy and inflexible. He assured me Claude 4.6 would solve that problem. I pointed out that I am already writing software faster than the rest of the team can review because we are short staffed. He suggested I use Claude to review my MRs.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 hours ago

What software are you writing? I'm struggling to see what any of this does, and for who. We could set all these AI computers on fire and what would it change? We have water, food, electricity, clothes, homes, cars, etc Oh we have AI Becky videos!

[–] sepi@piefed.social 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

One big problem with management is their inability to listen. Folks say shit over and over but management seems deaf because we're not people to be listened to. We're the help. And management acts like they know better.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

This is a major issue with capitalism. It is a massively inefficient way to organize society. The people with the most money do not necessarily make good decisions. They usually make selfish decisions.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 14 points 19 hours ago

If you were so smart you'd have wads of cash like them. They got where they are through sheer grit and bootstraps and a paltry $50 million from their family.

[–] mPony@kbin.earth 21 points 23 hours ago

next time, tell your boss that Claude should replace him, not you.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Ralph Wiggum loop that shit

Numbers go up, Claude won’t bother you 👍🏻

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 236 points 1 day ago (4 children)

“Top-down mandates to use large language models are crazy,” one employee told Wired. “If the tool were good, we’d all just use it.”

Yep.

Management is often out of touch and full of shit

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

"often" they are almost always full of it.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago

If the tool were good, we’d all just use it.”

Eggs-mothafucking-zackly!!!

There are no daily pressure campaigns to convince you to use a laptop or a smartphone. The value of those are self-evident.

AI on the other hand... -_-

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You wanna know who really bags on LLMs? Actual AI developers. I work with some, and you've never heard someone shit all over this garbage like someone who works with neural networks for a living.

[–] hushable@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

our company renamed out ML team into AI team, just to please investors, they been around for over a decade and never touched an LLM

[–] exu@feditown.com 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's this great rage blog post from 1.5 years ago by a data scientist

I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Oh, the guy from Hermit Tech! He's great, and his blog is hilarious and poignant in turns (though sometimes both at the same time).

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Missed this one, thanks

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[–] Peekashoe@lemmy.wtf 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Management: "No, that doesn't work, because employees spend so much time doing the actual work that they lack the vision to know what's good for them. Luckily for them I am not distracted by actual work so I have the vision to save them by making them use AI."

[–] sepi@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago

Something an idiot would say. Jack Dorsey is precisely this type of idiot. He's not the only idiot, though

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

At work today we had a little presentation about Claude Cowork. And I learned someone used it to write a C (maybe C++?) compiler in Rust in two weeks at a cost of $20k and it passed 99% of whatever hell test suite they use for evaluating compilers. And I had a few thoughts.

  • 99% pass rate? Maybe that's super impressive because it's a stress test, but if 1% of my code fails to compile I think I'd be in deep shit.
  • 20k in two weeks is a heavy burn. Imagine if what it wrote was... garbage.
  • "Write a compiler" is a complete project plan in three words. Find a business project that is that simple and I'll show you software that is cheaper to buy than build. We are currently working on an authentication broker service at work and we've been doing architecture and trying to get everyone to agree on a design for 2 months. There are thousands of words devoted to just the high level stuff, plus complex flow diagrams.
  • A compiler might be somewhat unique in the sense that there are literally thousands of test cases available - download a foss project and try to compile it. If it fails, figure out the bug and fix it. Repeat. The ERP that your boss wants you to stand up in a month has zero test coverage and is going to be chock full of bugs — if for no other reason than you haven't thought through every single edge case and neither has the AI because lots of times those are business questions.
  • There is not a single person who knows the code base well enough to troubleshoot any weird bugs and transient errors.

I think this is a cool thing in the abstract. But in reality, they cherry picked the best possible use case in the world and anyone expecting their custom project is going to go like this will be lighting huge piles of money on fire.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I wanna make sure I got this right. They used $20,000 in fees in 2 weeks to make a compiler? Also, to what end? Like what's the expected ROI on that?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago

Well it's Anthropic, creators of Claude. It's a way to show off and convince people AI can do it. $20k is what it would cost you or me, but it's just free for them.

I don't even hate AI but it's kinda sickening the way they overstate the capabilities. But let me tell you how excited the top leadership at my company is about this...

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

99% pass rate? Maybe that’s super impressive because it’s a stress test, but if 1% of my code fails to compile I think I’d be in deep shit.

Also - one of the main arguments of vibe coding advocators is that you just need to check the result several times and tell the AI assistant what needs fixing. Isn't a compiler test suite ideal for such workflow? Why couldn't they just feed the test failures back to the model and tell it to fix them, iterating again and again until they get it to work 100%?

[–] SMillerNL@piefed.social 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Thank you. Great addition. That was a very interesting read, though I need to be more awake for reading technical writing like that 🥱.

My point about spending $20k to produce garbage, then, was actually realized in this "perfect" use case.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago

That was interesting to read if not a bit jargon heavy. Thanks for sharing

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

It's even simpler than that: using an LLM to write a C compiler is the same as downloading an existing open source implementation of a C compiler from the Internet, but with extra steps, as the LLM was actually fed with that code and is just re-assembling it back together but with extra bugs - plagiarism hidden behind an automated text parrot interface.

A human can beat the LLM at that by simply finding and downloading an implementation of that more than solved problem from the Internet, which at worse will take maybe 1h.

The LLM can "solve" simple and well defined problems because its basically plagiarizing existing code that solves those problems.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Hey, so I started this comment to disagree with you and correct some common misunderstandings that I've been fighting against for years. Instead, as I was formulating my response, I realized you're substantially right and I've been wrong — or at least my thinking was incomplete. I figured I'd mention because the common perception is arguing with strangers on the internet never accomplishes anything.

LLMs are not fundamentally the plagiarism machines everyone claims they are. If a model reproduces any substantial text verbatim, it's because the LLM is overtrained on too small of a data set and the solution is, somewhat paradoxically, to feed it more relevant text. That has been the crux of my argument for years.

That being said, Anthropic and OpenAI aren't just LLM models. They are backed by RAG pipelines which are verbatim text that gets inserted into the context when it is relevant to the task at hand. And that fact had been escaping my consideration until now. Thank you.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A C compiler in two weeks is a difficult, but doable, grad school class project (especially if you use lex and yacc instead of hand-coding the parser). And I guarantee 80 hours of grad student time costs less than $20k.

Frankly, I'm not impressed with the presentation in your anecdote at all.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 day ago

Man, corporate layoffs kill productivity completely for me.

Once you do layoffs >50% of the job becomes performative bullshit to show you’re worth keeping, instead of building things the company actually needs to function and compete.

And the layoffs are random with a side helping of execs saving the people they have face time with.

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