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They've spent their entire lives bedazzling everything from hair to toenails to purses and beyond. They're not finding the way to de-bedazzle the lights, because they're not looking for one.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Have you tried baseball bats?

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This article is from the UK, and nobody plays baseball over there.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Cricket bat, croquet mallet, whatever 🤷‍♂️

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So let’s get this straight: you’re driving along at night, a car driving toward you on the other side dazzles you with excessively bright lights, you roll down the window and grab your baseball bat, lean out the window and smash their headlights with the bat.

But what do you do about the lights on the other side of the car? They’re not so easy to reach from your side of the road!

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's why knights of old had such long jousting sticks. Knock those shinny fuckers into the dirt

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

One hand on your jousting stick, the other on the baseball bat, knee on the steering wheel. Love it!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Alternative response: retroreflective mirror

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I keep a reflective umbrella in the passenger seat, it's been quite useful

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

unfortunately you'd need a quite large surface for it to be effective

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not if they're slightly hyperbolic.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

.. that's already handled by the retro reflective nature

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But if you combine both together.....

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

then you get an even smaller effective area

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 7 points 18 hours ago

90% they have every light on people don't take the time to figure out their cars so drive about with fogs on full blast 24/7

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Headlight height regulations and lumen limits. If a transport truck can have reasonably placed head lights, so can the f250.

[–] Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been thinking about this stuff since I moved to a place where nights are very dark and people use high beams much more liberally (and inconsiderately)

It's it possible to have some sort of lumen-activated glass tinting? Something to protect the receiving end?

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I believe any kind of window tint on windshields is illegal in the United States. Even electrochromic tint that is 100% transparent most of the time.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

My understanding is that thwres a a federal limit of like 30% light being blocked for windshields, with most states having stronger regulations.

My state, Mass, only allows any tint in the top 6" for instance. BUT, its really easy to get a waiver, overriding that. All it requires is taking a doctor's note documenting photosensitivity to the DMV.

Back in highschool, my friend's mom had glaucoma, and got her car tinted. Because he was on his parent's insurance, that made her a registered user of his car, and also entitled him to tint his out. He had his windshield tinted to about the darkness of a medium pair of sunglasses.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think ive heard of glasses that do something similar in the sunlight. I think auto makers will be hesisitant because if it fails to revert back the low visibility could be hazardous and result in a lawsuit. I think we can solve this problem with proper regulation rather than add even more tech to new cars. Along with lumen limits the "warmth" (kelvin) of the lights may be regulated as well.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Along with lumen limits the "warmth" (kelvin) of the lights may be regulated as well.

God I wish it was 3000K max, just like good old halogen bulbs.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

idk man a hammer to the headlight seems like a pretty quick fix to me

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

In my daydreams that sounds like a great idea. In reality I think the law would probably close in on me for doing that.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

between flock and doorbell cams, you'd certainly need to take precautions carefully

hopefully someday soon we reach a critical mass where the average person realizes how fucking shit and assholey these LED headlights are

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 15 hours ago

I was disappointed by the scene in 'fight club' where they hit the modern vw beetle with baseball bats.
They did virtually no damage.

Make sure you use a big pointy hammer.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Enforcement would help. The biggest problem in my locality is lifted trucks that become retina destroyers to reasonable-height cars. I don't think I've ever heard of someone getting a ticket here for having too-bright headlights.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't understand how lifted trucks where the bumpers are lifted as well and are well above those of all the other vehicles on the road are legal.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

They are legal by being buddies of the police, or by being the police while off-duty.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

they are illegal, but just not enforced.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that they are too bright, it's that they never realign the beams to the correct angle for the height increase.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

nope, it's both

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Ok, here's how you fix it:

  1. Calculate how many headlights need changing and how much it will cost
  2. Create a fund for that amount.
  3. Announce that in a 1.5 years headlight regulation changes and all cars need to adapt.
  4. During annual checks verify the lights. If they don't comply with the regulation send driver to regulate/change them for free (covered by fund established in 2)
  5. After 1.5 years do random checks. Each car that still doesn't comply gets towed. The owner can either pay for the tow and fixing the lights and can't recover their car.

Just saying there are new requirements would be unfair to poor people that bought a car before the new regulation. They would have to spend extra money now to fix something they are not responsible for.

Saying that car manufacturers have to fix all their cars would be unfair because they were selling car that complied with all regulations. This would not stand in court.

That's why there's no quick fix. Doing it fairly will be complicated and it will cost money. It's easier for politicians to ignore the issue.

[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago

Just put the onus on car and bulb sellers going forward, then tack on a req for antiques that goes into effect in stages, probably paired with registration renewals. That way it's not an all-at-once burden, and most people can know about the transition well in advance. No surprises.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

during annual checks

Most of north america doesn't do that. Some place require a safety check to initiate insurance, after that most just wait for things to break or get pulled over by a cop/ministry of transportation.

Im also a little iffy about #2. We already subsidize drivers enough, making them pay for their lights or at least partly pay sounds reasonable.

I think a middle ground solution would be add the regulations for new cars and enforce the regulation when a noncompliant car changes owners. This way buyers of used cars should be able to research if that cost is likely to impact their model or not. It doesn't take all the headlights off the road at once but it starts phasing out the problematic cars.

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There is a quick fix, sealed beams.

There was a time when all cars in the US had round headlights. That's because there was only one headlight and all cars were mandated by law to use it. That law can be reimplemented at any time. It would fix the headlights as soon as it goes into effect.

Car makers would hate it. It would ruin a lot of their styling and marketing having to use the one and only headlight. Which would make it an effective deterrant. Any major government using sealed beam laws as a threat would make the industry self regulate quickly.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I support a return to round sealed beam headlights. Especially if we can have pop-ups again.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Pop ups are dangerous for pedestrians.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

So are big ass pickups with grilles that are over 5ft high

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 21 hours ago

It would fix the headlights as soon as it goes into effect.

All headlights would magically change? Even the millions installed in cars already? Wow, that's a powerful legislation.

[–] Sakurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting stats, if caveated

[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Death is not the only concern.

You don't just not beat your dog because it doesn't kill it.

These lights are too bright, they cause discomfort and stress out blinded drivers, and make driving a night impossibly for many who could otherwise drive safely before they were introduced.

For many night driving has become a rather traumatic experience, and that negatively effects them and other people as a result.

Imagine you're wearing a shocking dog bark collar and not knowing when it's gonna go off, but knowing it could, and you are also operating a 2 ton vehicle at 60mph on a busy and notoriously deadly stretch of road with your adorable 3 year old twins buckled in the back seat.

[–] Sakurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Idk, as a cyclist I’ve been blinded at night by other cyclists as often as cars.

Don’t mistake me, I have plenty of reasons to share the “fuck cars” ethos, but LED headlights aren’t even in the top 10.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Collisions dropped suddently in 2020. What could have possibly caused it???

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 21 hours ago

Everyone had 20/20 vision that year, duh.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I do not think they are being serious. The triple ? is a dead giveaway.

[–] Sakurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

Look at least they didn’t blame congestion tax

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