Vote anyways
Goddammit. I'm having flashbacks to the 2020 primaries.
Fuck the low level of civic education in this fucking country.
[gently blows the dust off my 'Bernie' sticker]
this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2024
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In all fairness, educated people are far less likely to vote against their own interests.
All of the people who have worked so fervently to suppress and brigade any person who dare say that Biden is unfit for office and that the Democrats need to produce an alternative.
Now the DNC has a shocked pikachu face that he is unfit for office and they need to produce an alternative.
If only we didn't have Blue MAGA boot lickers muddying the water for the past 3 years, we had already gone about the process, and this debate featured someone who was fit for the office.
Trump literally shit his pants on stage (there was a point when his microphone was on where you audibly hear him fill his pamper) while doing nothing but lying and dropping buzz words and Biden STILL resoundingly lost the debate.
Somehow found a way to top Boat-Shark-Electricity with Abortion-Civil Rights-Immigrant murderer.
Fuck.
Resoundingly lost the debate?
That's insane.
At least he answered the questions correctly, building off solid domestic policy over the past four years.
Dumps didn't tell the truth at all, and that s*** doesn't fly like it did 8 years ago.
They don't need an alternative, people need to vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8eMauO_T88
Answered the questions correctly?
I can hardly even make out words.
What I could pick out, translated to (as) coherent (as possible) English:
"A young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral, and the idea she was murdered by an immigrant coming in, they talk about that. Here's the deal, there's a lot of young women being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters. I, wah, jus, jusjusjus ridiculous. You can do nothing about it. And they try to arrest them when they go across state lines."
In what world do you live in where that is "correctly answering" a question about abortion?
You really need to stop sabotaging the Democrat party with your Blue MAGA horse-shit.
Quit projecting your sabotage.
I didn't say that he answered every question exactly how you personally want it to be answered.
Also, that's the one clip that's been posted on every news site, did you even watch the debate?
He's old.,you crybaby.
If you've ever spoken to an old person, that's what they sound like sometimes.
It doesn't change that he's been doing a good job for 4 years.
You can vote for the rapist, I'm going to keep going with the guy who invests in clean, sustainable energy, legislates new civil rights, provides funding for health care and told Walmart and other corporates to lower their prices.
You're so transparent.
Literally the only people who say blue maga are actual maga people.
Maga's an idiot fascist rapist slogan, so you can keep it to yourself and quit projecting it onto liberals.
He has single handedly disenfranchised record numbers of voters with a genocide.
And you say "he's old" like that's just some write off thing. Its not just some write off thing. If him being old is what is making him incapable of stringing together a coherent thought or WALKING OFF A STAGE UNASSISTED, then GET SOMEONE WHO ISNT ANCIENT.
Get your head out of your ass buddy.
When the dems lose, its because of what you are doing here.
100% avoidable. Get literally anyone who can enunciate a full sentence and hasnt personally orchestrated a genocide, and they will win.
Keep Blue MAGAing and being delulu, and you will have succeeded in handing Trump the office again.
You maga zealots are such frightened children, running after abusive dumps because you mistake abuse for affection.
You vote for the rapist, I'm going to vote for someone who's made positive policy decisions for four years.
I don't care if Biden can walk at all, FDR was in a wheelchair.
Look at the policies, you blind bat.
Biden's administration has benefited the US immensely, domestically and abroad.
He's advanced civil liberties.
Biden's a great president, dumps is a rapist and literally a traitor.
Twice you, a person who has been demonstrably Blue MAGA in this conversation, have called me, a disenfranchised Independent former Democrat who plans on voting for Jill Stein unless the DNC can produce a viable candidate, a MAGA.
You have literally described Biden as an old invalid potato and you still shill him.
Get a clue dude.
"He is strong on the economy, Bidenomics work." Noone can afford a house, increasingly people cant afford food, CEO salaries and corporation profit margins are at an all time high though.
"He has benefited the US domestically." Is this in reference to the US infrastructure? So he fixed the water in Flint issue, right? Oh... he didnt do anything. Well at least he has taken action on the spread of PFAS... oh, he hasnt dont anything about that. Well, at least our roads and bridges are in good working order... oh, no, they are crumbling and collapsing at a consistent rate.
"He has benefited the US abroad." He has turned America into the criminal baddies on a global scale. He has provided unfettered support, rhetorically and fiscally, to an WJC indited war criminal, and has threatened the WJC in defense of the war criminal. He has turned most of the world against the US.
"dumps is a rapist and literally a traitor." 100% agree. That is why we NEED someone who will be able to beat him at general, and Biden will not do that. Biden will not be president in 2025. I guarantee it.
You're not fooling anybody by pretending to be independent while screaming blue maga.
You vote for rape, I vote for progressive social policies.
And no, you don't need The perfect magical candidate, you need the candidate who already won before who implements good domestic and foreign policy.
I mean not you personally, you're voting for rape, but any progressives who ignore the lgbtq legislation and healthcare and green energy and the absurd amount of good the Biden administration has done for so that they can scuff the dirt with their chucks and wish they had a "better" candidate that did more of all the things Biden is already doing?
Short-sighted and delusional.
Dude, you need meds. Like Biden. And Trump.
Wow, you're projecting again, shocking.
Under Biden, your medication actually might be paid for.
Oh really?
I thought he "beat Medicare."
His words. Not mine.
It's very revealing that you think it's more important he momentarily used the wrong word in a sentence instead of the fact that he implemented and expanded the affordable care act over two administrations.
Very revealing that a consistent problem that has been pointed out repeatedly for years at this point is, in your mind, "momentary".
Good thing we arent talking about the office of President of the United States. The most important office in the world to be a strong leader and strong orator. An office where a "momentary" bout of dementia could spark a nuclear war.
Also a good thing that he hasnt spent a year orchestrating a genocide that has resulted in war crime indictments, creating all time high international military tension since WWII.
Very revealing that you keep focusing on them a momentary speech problem from a guy with a stutter who's been achieving legislation for 4 years without a problem.
We should be talking about the president of the United States, because that invalidates all of your criticisms about him not doing any break-dancing.
What I would like is an administration that advances civil rights, protects national forests, invests and infrastructure and sustainable energy.
A leader who gets along well with presidents of other countries so that we enter back into climate accords and people trust the US again.
What are you looking for?
Rape? Treason? That's what you're supporting.
Yes, it is good that Biden hasn't "spent a year orchestrating a genocide".
Yes, it is good that Biden hasn't "spent a year orchestrating a genocide".
So you reject reality and substitute your own.
Good Progressive (ie: Hilary-not-actually-left-person)
Nope, you're wrong again.
Unlike you, I can think for myself.
So you can see Biden has shit the Federal bed.
Cool.
Who is your recommended alternative?
The delivery was bad but it makes sense: A woman was murdered by an immigrant, he (Trump) went to the funeral and tries to demagogue it. Meanwhile Republicans are passing laws to criminalize abortion and prosecute women who try to travel to other states after they're raped by people they know. So Trump and his party don't give a shit about prosecuting rapes or protecting women, they just want to demonize immigrants and control women's bodies.
Edit: You also left out the preceding lines where he talks about Georgia and other states legislating a six-week abortion ban, which sets up the point more clearly.
You can do the same thing to try to save Trump's Boat-Electricity-Shark flub, which was SOMEHOW more coherent than what came out of Biden's mouth.
We need to stop encouraging the Dems to advance a man who will SOMEHOW lose to Trump.
We need to pounce and, open our ears, and get the currently roughly 47% of Americans who are saying simply "anyone else" attention again, because the way its going, Trump is going to get roughly 30 % of the vote, Biden is going to get roughly 20-25% of the vote, and remaining 47% is voting RFK, Jill Stein, or they just aren't showing up.
Biden is a losing horse, and this isn't Sea-biscuit.
He's the face of why ya gotta vote. All the DNC trickery in the world woulda meant nothing if y'all turned out on primary day with the same energy y'all spend on cursing everyone else for doing it and not voting for him.
He coulda won, by a landslide, and he didn't because he deserved better than his own supporters.
The progressive paradox. Progressive ideas and politicians are soooo popular but there's always a reason they lost and it's never because progressives don't turn out.
The issue wasn't that people didn't show up. There was record turnout for a primary race. The issue was concerns about electability. The talking heads kept repeating incessantly that Biden had the better shot at beating Trump. It was complete bullshit based off polls, but people believed it. Beating Trump was the top priority with policy taking a back seat. The position we are in now is the universe's sense of irony.
The thing that fucks American elections isn't our abysmal turnout. It's the complete lack of civic involvement between elections that makes voters easily malleable by expensive ad campaigns.