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In September last year, Peter Mandelson was fighting to keep his job as British Ambassador to the US after the first raft of revelations about the extent of his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.

Within hours of the details emerging, an anonymous Wikipedia editor had made changes to Mandelson’s page that distanced him from Epstein and cast him in a sympathetic light. That editor has since been blocked for making undisclosed paid changes.

New details about the relationship between the two – including that Mandelson recommended a villa where Epstein could host his “guests” – have sparked a national scandal in recent weeks and led to pressure on Keir Starmer to step down as prime minister.

But over the course of two days in September, while Mandelson was still in his government job, the mysterious account made a series of edits that either reflected more favourably on him or pushed details of the Epstein scandal under unrelated information.

And when Mandelson was eventually sacked on 11 September, it moved within hours to remove the reason given by the Foreign Office for his dismissal: that Mandelson had told Epstein his 2008 conviction for sex offences was wrong and encouraged him to clear his name.

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[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder what that person's answer was when as a kid they got asked what they want to be when they grow up. Fireman? Astronaut? Pedophile PR? Well congratulations.

[–] giantripdrop@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Coincidentally, when I was poking around https://jmail.world/ after the first tranche released, there was correspondence with the exact person talking about editing Wiki and Google seo for Epstein himself.

https://www.theverge.com/report/876081/jeffrey-epstein-files-seo-google-digital-footprint-emails

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have wondered the same about scammers. Like, if their mother knew they were going to do that with their life, she'd probably regret all of that wasted effort raising them.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or their mothers just did a terrible job of raising them. Look at J.D. Vance and his street urchin mother.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I haven’t heard. What’s the deal with Vance’s mom?

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess it's fixed now... there are 61 mentions of Epstein on his page lol.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago

Good ol' Streisand, coming to save us from people's bullshit coverups.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Paid editors are a scourge on wikipedia. Everyone with an axe to grind hires them. From revisionists trying to rehabilitate feudalism, or any of history's great monsters it appears, to any monied interests. Whether it's a polluting industry, and or a company exploiting workers in SE Asia in virtual slave labour, or a government official somewhere, there are dudes on wikipedia that are paid to do these things.

Wikipedia is only a good source on non controversial topics, at least unless you look at the actual sources submitted and can cut through the agendas, something most people can't seem to do well honestly.

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Wikipedia is only a good source on non controversial topics

There's research showing that controversial topics ultimately get better Wikipedia articles, because they get more attention, and because editors more strongly feel the need to get good quality sources.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Very true, I've had whole cited paragraphs removed by non-registered users. Of course, IF you've got the time, you can look through the article history pages. For recently embarassed subjects, it's not hard to spot the deletions over the past month or two, as they're colored in red.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 10 points 1 day ago

at least unless you look at the actual sources submitted

You can't check the source for information that's entirely been omitted. In any case, never assume Wikipedia provides the full story, or even a condensed and accurate one. What has been mentioned might be correct, but the devil is in what's been left out.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait, so this editor made paid edits without disclosure and was not banned on the spot? And then it came back to add more edits? At least its banned now, right?

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't say when they told Wikipedia about the paid editing, but once Wikipedia investigated it they banned them and denied the appeal. The account never came back to make more edits after they were discovered.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago

That editor has since been blocked for making undisclosed paid changes.

Ok, I misunderstood this part. I tough it means they can't do more undisclosed paid edits.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wonder what other pages they "edited"

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hope all its edits get audited

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Of course! As soon as this kind of thing comes to light, the pitchforks come out. The checkusers have some advanced tools to find linked bad-actor accounts, for example.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's a good thing that lots of people have full backups of wikipedia.
I saved a copy for myself at the start of 2025. It took about 23GB of space if I'm remembering right. Maybe I'll burn a blu-ray copy for long term storage

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You should print it out:

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the compressed version? Kiwix's latest copy is roughly 100GB including images.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I assume it was a subset of languages. Only EN is much smaller than full with all languages.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wikipedia isn't important because of its data. Rather because of the fact it is continuously updated, extended, and fixed at a gigantic scale.

If Wikipedia ever dies, its information will lose relevance by the day. After a decade or two without a similar-scale replacement, will anyone even care?

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

No, the data itself is inherently valuable even when it's a little bit dated. We don't need daily updates to learn about historical events, methods of irrigation, 20th century election results, mineral composition of transistors and diodes, and millions of other well-documented topics. It's an incredible resource of collected knowledge with immense inherent value.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Imagine having a collection of Wikipedia backups and disclosing that on a first date.

What are we reading today, babe? 2020q1, the Covid hoaxes? Yeah, that's the shit.

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