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Hey y'all! So we are changing phone providers and they are forcing us into getting a new phone. I have an s23 which I hate anyway, and can get a pixel 9 or 10 now. I want the 9 since it seems better for me.

My question is, should I install graphene on it right away? I don't wanna have to reset it again down the road. And I don't care about warranties, if it dies I can afford another one.

Graphene seems to support the 9 and 10 from what I'm seeing

Edit Did some reading , it appears the at&t pixel 9 does have an unlocked boot loader ? Is it true ??

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[–] 42beansinapod@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 16 hours ago

Yes, you should install it right away, but be sure to check all hardware features first! (Cameras, flashlight, battery life, etc...) because if some are DOA, you need to return the phone before if has had its bootloader unlocked!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Good luck with Pixel hardware.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A very good friend gifted me with his old pixel 7a, and even got graphene on it before sending it.

I have no fucking clue how I would go back to anything else for my main device. I am genuinely antsy for the graphene team to announce whatever brand they're working with because I do hate Google.

But, fuck me, even the 7a on graphene is just so damn nice. Amazing battery life, everything is smooth animation wise, and I get to choose what is on it. It really is what android always should have been (for my preferences, I know it wouldn't be that perfect for everyone). I've had it for months now, and I'm still irrationally angry that it took moving to a degoogled/minimum Google set-up in Google hardware to find a phone so right for me. I'm also rationally angry that there's no sd card slot, but that's a different issue.

So, yeah, I highly recommend graphene if only from a user friendliness perspective.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

i'm excited! maybe i'll get rid of my s23 this summer. i hate it.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, I'd definitely install it right away. There's really no reason not to - it's super easy to install over a browser (must be Chrome-based, unfortunately), and it's the best mobile OS experience I've ever had.

Edit: As the other comment said, make sure to get a Pixel with an unlocked bootloader! I never go through my provider for my phones, and always buy independently.

[–] hesh@quokk.au 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You should be able to buy the phone from Google instead of from your carrier, which will let you ensure it is not carrier locked.

I think I'll do that. Just swap my s23 over to at&t and live with it and next year get an unlocked pixel

[–] blalon@lemmus.org 6 points 1 day ago

If you are certain you want to switch to GOS you should install it right away.

If you are not sure about what you want you should use the pixel as is for a few days, then switch to GOS for a few days. (And see what you like the most)

I know you don't want to reset it but the fact that you are asking means you are not sure.

Maybe you can give additional information on why you would or wouldn't want to switch to GOS, that way I may be able to give you more usefull advice.

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 0 points 17 hours ago

All phones are sold bootloader locked, even if not carrier locked.

[–] gravitas@lem.ugh.im 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might i suggest getting a used pixel from swappa or on ebay instead?

The one att gives you will most likely be carrier and bootloader locked for a period of 30 or 90 days i forget which but its fairly common for providers to do this to prevent folks from getting a cheap subsidized phone and then dropping the contract. So youll probably be able to flash graphene eventually but there woukd be a wait.

Alternatively a used pixel 8 or 9 will come already unlockable and ready to go and cost less too.

yeah i just don't trust that it'll be unlocked. i'm gonna keep my s23 and buy an unlocked pixel later!

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How are they forcing you to change phones?

If you get the device from your carrier it will probably have the bootloader locked so that you can't remove their malware. Don't do this.

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

All phones are sold bootloader locked, even if not carrier locked.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No they're not? That's how you get GrapheneOS.

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Unlockable, not unlocked. My Sony was locked until I gave it the unlocking code I got from Sony's website with my phone's IMEI. Unfortunately, it's not relockable with /e/OS installed.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately have no choice. Its a family plan and they are changing carriers. If I don't switch it will double my bill. Ugh. Yeah its from at&t...family is not privacy concious or tech literate so I sound like a crazy person if I explain any of this.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its a family plan and they are changing carriers.

There's no reason you should have to change your phone just because you changed carriers, unless its already carrier-locked. I just did this a couple of weeks ago.

If it is, then consider that you're probably going to be stuck in this loop of constantly buying shitty new phones. You should be able to pay it off and get it unlocked, if that's possible. Then look at some MVNOs, they often have much better pricing. Metro PCS, Visible, Mint, etc. There's also some affordable privacy-friendly carriers like JMP.chat, Cape, Phreeli, SimXL, silent.link, etc.

If you just get another carrier-locked device, it's a moot point, so you don't have to worry about it.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I told em nope I'm keeping my phone. My imei said my phone works fine with at&t. Then I'll get an ebay pixel later.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago