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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some centrists are, frankly, low information voters. They don't really have a conviction or do their research well. I love my friend and I owe him a lot, but he supported Trump because of the initial anti-war and immigration rhetoric. He's not far right, he supports Palestine and he's a Pole who despise the far right party that ruled his country for eight years; but he is one of the many single and lonely men who feels lost and doesn't have a direction. His background and profile are those preyed upon by the right, even if the person is of varying flavour of centrist.

The right don't really need to convince people to join them, they just have to sow enough doubt to prevent the left from being a coherent movement.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I kinda feel like "low information voters" and "morons" would be synonyms here.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The left-right spectrum is a bit of a capitalist sham anyways. class noises

[–] ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

The left is kaynsian the right was balanced budget... until Regan. And now it exactly as you describe.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 16 points 21 hours ago

“Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”

MLK

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Guys, just don't be poor and it's not an issue!

spoiler/s, if not obvious

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

the number of times someone has said to me "you're just mad because you're poor"

and it's like… obviously i'm mad because i'm poor! i'm mad we live in a system that denies people their basic dignities by creating a possibility for people to be this thing called poor. but they think they have money based on virtue, and i don't based on some sort of failing

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

but they think they have money based on virtue, and i don't based on some sort of failing

That is from the whole "prosperity gospel" grift that sprung up and spread especially well in the US post WWII. Apparently God sets your net worth based on your spiritual scorecard, which appeals to the middle class and is used by the upper class as a replacement for the Devine Right of Kings to rule. It's worth an afternoon's deep dive if you have any interest in how religion can be so easily twisted as one of the levers of power.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 18 hours ago

Don't forget that the same system teaches all the regular people that wealth is a sign of virtue. That silly thought is not limited to the people who have the wealth. Much the opposite, in fact.

They also like to pretend that luck is minor part of it or even a non-issue. It's crazy to imagine how much good could result from eliminating the concept that people are where they are solely because they "deserve" it and they "worked" for it.

I worked for the stuff I have too. That doesn't mean I am not incredibly lucky.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There's no such thing as a centrist.

“Centrist” is just what conservatives, corporatist parasites, and / or fascists call themselves when they don't want their victims to realise they're conservatives, corporatist parasites, and / or fascists.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I don't think this is quite true. People that call themselves centrists can come from a benign place. In my mind, the folks that call themselves centrists tend to mainly care about preserving the status quo, no matter what it is.

They'll usually use terms like "big tent", "adult in the room", and if they went to school "realpolitik". Usually privileged, they don't understand the urgency for change for those in need, so they'll balk at any method that may actually achieve some progress for the marginalized and underprivileged. Usually they'll say some wise, enlightened thing about "optics".

And they'll tell themselves that they care. They'll tell themselves and others that they're the good guys. They'll watch CNN and read the economist, and they'll tell themselves they're informed. They're always on the right side of history, but only ever when it's already too late. I think they genuinely don't know.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You're both right and wrong.

“Centrist” is just what conservatives, corporatist parasites, and / or fascists call themselve

This is true.

There’s no such thing as a centrist.

This isn't. There absolutely are centrists, it's just that their voices are drowned out by the loud extremes, AND they're being labelled as leftists by the right, and "rightists" by the left.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Actual centrism is nothing more than the state of not falling completely in line with the values/positions of one 'wing'. Anyone who could be accurately described as "right-leaning" or "left-leaning" is by definition a type of centrist; that's why it's 'only' a "lean".

The way centrism is stereotyped is similar to how bisexuals most commonly experience biphobic stereotyping. Bisexuals can be seen as 'gay in denial' (see the 'conservative in disguise' comment you replied to), as sexual 'fence-sitters', as impressionable 'sluts' who don't have the conviction to commit to one sex, etc.

The fact is, a lot more people than one might assume, 'deviate' from both extremes to some degree.

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