Wild how Jesus' struggle against the Pharisees gets ignored by many modern Christians. If they'd take a second to look their leaders in the mirror they'd recognize the same methods of control guiding them today.
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2026
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Dude was schooling them on their own turf every other page in the NT, but noooo, let's focus on Paul and his fucking epistles.
...why hold back from saying it though?
I get it. There's social friction in that kind of altercation, but fear of that social friction is a contributing factor for the current state of things.
Sure, you can't walk out on your job to start protesting in the streets because for all practical intents and purposes everyone is a single paycheque away from financial ruin, but Jesus Christ people, you can stand up to the batty woman in your local parish telling you that trans people are grooming children.
Yes, there are social consequences, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere, right? Are you seriously going to tell me that quiet acquiescence is preferable to ostracism from a sexist/racist/homophobic/etc social circle?
There are countless tiny opportunities to stand up and none of them are easy, but we're long past the point where they're necessary.
I'm not protesting the church, i'm sticking a document with my ideas on its doors. Completely different things. What could a harmless paper document ever do? Start a protest? A revolution?
American Christians- Protesting in a church is wrong!
Literally Jesus Christ Himself-
That's my favorite Bible story because it humanizes Jesus so much to just once flip out and whoop some ass. He wasn't divinely chill all the time; he usually restrained himself.
Doesn't it also literally say he flipped some tables?
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I like that he weaved the whip together himself... I just picture him calmly sitting there, literally making a whip, while people are all like, "What the fuck are you doing, Jesus??" and, saying nothing, he just quietly continues... Until the whip is complete and it's time to kick some money-changer ass.
Jesus comes across as kind of mean to his disciples at times. It's less obvious in some of the other gospels, but in Mark, which is a lot shorter and contains a lot fewer sermons, the dialogue with the disciples really stands out and Jesus often admonishes them for pretty understandable things. Jesus isn't really portrayed by the gospels as being "divinely chill" so much as having infinite wisdom and little patience for people who are wrong.
Mark is also (believed to be) the earliest gospel, so the ways it varies from the others is pretty interesting. Particularly against John which is the (relatively) newest.
I like to imagine Jesus as a Saw Gerrera type.
It makes it more fun.
Just as plausible that he could pilot an xwing too
favorite Bible story
I like the one where the druid Elisha summoned bears to murder children because they mocked his bald head.
Yahweh is a just god, after all
There was also the story where as a kid he was studying plants and got annoyed with the neighbour kid who was trying to play with him. He killed the neighbour kid and returned to his plants.
If people were using my dad's house to scam people, I'd be pissed and kick them out too.
I wonder what Jesus thought about this issue.
He was known to be a super chill dude in temples.
And Jesus said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of ~~thieves~~ job creators.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a ~~rich man~~ job creator to enter into the kingdom of God.
That would make more sense if it were church members protesting against the policies of their own church.
Isn't that what they were doing? Assuming this is about the Don Lemon church protest thing, from what I understand, it was about it coming out that the pastor of that church was an ICE Commander.
Yes, but none of the protesters were affiliated with the church or had any stake in the church at all.
"Don't bring a gun to a protest!"
If these motherfuckers had any semblance of a conscience, they'd be protesting their fascist pastor in their goddamn church. And what's even more rich is how some of them insisted to Don Lemon: "There's a whole bunch of different opinions in this church."
Oh yeah, bitch? Then get on that microphone and ask that piece of refuse why he's helping ICE round up innocent and legal American citizens. The majority opinion of the country is that this is an atrocity, so it should be easy, if any of you really feel that way.
I hope they all get ass cancer.
You're assuming that they know the first damn thing about their strongly held lifelong beliefs about the nature of reality.
Luther protested right outside of the church like a good boy
Shoulda said it.
LOL are these the same people that have turned their churches into campaign organs for their party?
That is what I want to see, when people say that we need more "religious education".
I agree with the sentiment, but the word “protestieren” signified “to attest” and not “to protest” (but as a Protestant myself, I do believe that protests have a place within Church, go my American sisters and brothers!).
both protest and protestant come from the same root word. and, I would agree that they do "mean" the same thing.... to declare publicly or testify.
the -ant ending just makes it "person who declares publicly"
As a Protestant (at least nominally) myself I feel like the current German Protestant church is pretty well positioned in their believes.
But to be clear, espescially the German protestant church has been very off the moral path when it came to past fascists as well as the stance during WW1.
American Protestants are generally very much the same kind of "believers" as the ones during WW2 - very much unlike Bonhöffers Protestant ideas. And it's nothing surprising, most of them left Europe with the religious foundation ofnthe 18th and 19th century
Just indulge them for a moment.