Java is poison for the mind
this post was submitted on 07 Dec 2023
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Why do people feel this way?
I'm genuinely curious as I'd think having a wider swathe of coding experience would be a good thing wouldn't it?
I don't work in fields that use coding expertise, I drive a forklift so I'm out of my wheel house when it comes to coding.
Java used to lack many features to make the stuff you wanted it to do, so most Java programmers adapted design patterns to solve these problems.
Honestly, older versions of Java are utter garbage DX. The only reason it got so popular was because of aggressive enterprise marketing and it worked. How can a language lack such an essential feature as default parameters?
So, anyway after the great hype Java lost its marketshare, and developers were forced to learn another technologies. And of course, instead of looking for language-native way of solving problems, they just used same design patterns.
And thus MoveAdapterStrategyFactoryFactories were in places where simple lambda function would do the same thing, just not abstracted away three layers above. Obviously used once in the entire codebase.
Imo the only really good thing about Java was JVM, while it was not perfect, it actually delivered what it promised.
This is the only necessary comment in the entire thread, thanks for explaining
Java in a large way has been eclipsed by most other languages, and developers kind of have a way of making fun of old technologies, like a lot of the same jokes are made about PHP which is still very popular but outdated. In reality Java is also still incredibly popular and knowing it is certainly a benefit. It's just a collective joke.
Not sure either. Best guesses are a combination of elitism, ignorance, preconceptions, groupthink, and insincere memeing.
Do you have a link to this job posting? That’s exactly me. Not a joke.
Ruling Javascript and Python programmers out would be more sane imho. Java sucks, but at least its typed and doesn't implement weird semantics.
Did NOT expect to see Rust mentioned. Happy it's getting recognized.
Isnt there Rust in the linux kernel now? Would be kinda crazy if it didnt get noticed by now...
Rust is the Celeste of programming languages.
Whos celeste?
The only Celeste I know is a difficult video game where I always get stuck when playing
Celeste is a critically acclaimed indie game. It became a meme to call it a "hidden gem" because for a while it was being brought up constantly on various forums as some underrated game, even though it was quite well-known and highly rated.
Maybe they want to avoid java coding patterns. FactoryFactoryGenerator kind of stuff. Maybe they want to teach their own java coding patterns and want someone coming in with a blank slate so they don't have to unlearn habits. Maybe they're tired of diploma mill programmers applying and are using this as a resume filter tripwire.
It might be to see who is reading the posting and tailoring their reply. Kinda like a "no green M&Ms" rider.
Definitely the first. I work in ML, and I find for instance people with background mainly in c# to be the least fit for my field, particularly if they have long experience. So I understand this kind of requests
ability to bring up hardware
In conversation?
You need to raise it suckling at your teet until you send it off to college.
Real-time operating system implies the existence of a turn-based operating system.
Well, that's... not wrong. The time-sharing OSes take turns assigning resources too tasks.